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Ashikabi · 03-09-2016, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Summerwolf

He had to have it off before starting. Using the airbrake was considered "cheating."

They didn't show the last guy unfortunately, but he basically rocketed down the hill because he messed up a little bit.

Oh I didn't know it was a competition. Guess you win cuz I "cheated"

Summerwolf · 03-09-2016, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashikabi

Oh I didn't know it was a competition. Guess you win cuz I "cheated"

I mean, if we had an ft86club hill start competition....

Ashikabi · 03-09-2016, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Summerwolf

I mean, if we had an ft86club hill start competition....

I think automatics just win by default

Summerwolf · 03-09-2016, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashikabi

I think automatics just win by default

.....can we at least agree nobody likes those guys?

(lol, JK autos)

Ashikabi · 03-09-2016, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Summerwolf

.....can we at least agree nobody likes those guys?

(lol, JK autos)

That we can agree on.

Ashikabi · 03-09-2016, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Summerwolf

He had to have it off before starting. Using the airbrake was considered "cheating."

They didn't show the last guy unfortunately, but he basically rocketed down the hill because he messed up a little bit.

So I had more time to think about your video and I just love taking to you so much I had to post again. Driver 1 "cheated", did not crush his shit. Driver 2 struggled but again did not run over his stuff. You said driver 3 screwed up and rolled back. So what I'm gathering is if you cheat on a hill start you do fine and if you make a mistake on a hill start, without cheating, you may roll back. Right?

Summerwolf · 03-09-2016, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashikabi

So I had more time to think about your video and I just love taking to you so much I had to post again. Driver 1 "cheated", did not crush his shit. Driver 2 struggled but again did not run over his stuff. You said driver 3 screwed up and rolled back. So what I'm gathering is if you cheat on a hill start you do fine and if you make a mistake on a hill start, without cheating, you may roll back. Right?

I think they all had their "parking brakes" off before hand. The noises you're hearing is the literal airbrakes releasing as they transition.

Capt Spaulding · 03-09-2016, 01:20 PM

At the risk of interrupting a perfectly delightful D&^k M#!#*%(*g event, my experience teaching people to drive standards suggests that the hardest part of the process is the clutch release on startup. And, that the hardest part of that is learning how to feel and manage the friction point.

My usual teaching tools are a large parking lot and my son's old 6 cyl Silverado. Sit the student in the driver's seat and tell them NOT to touch the throttle - AT ALL. Then we launch the truck/car in first w/o throttle until they feel comfortable and no longer stall. Then we launch in second until they feel comfortable. Then we launch in first and shift to second w/o throttle. Then we introduce the accelerator, then we learn to shift using the accelerator. Usually takes a half an hour. Once the student feels comfortable with what the clutch does and how to make it work for them, the rest is cake. It will take a while to learn it, but it's cake.

To be sure, other cars will differ in feel. But once you learn the principles you can adapt to different cars pretty easily. Handbrake usage is in the eye of the beholder.

BTW - the Chevy has 200k+ miles on it with the original clutch.

Oh, and like the Nu Yawkah told the tourist who asked how to get to Carnegie Hall - practice - practice - practice.

Ashikabi · 03-09-2016, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Summerwolf

I think they all had their "parking brakes" off before hand. The noises you're hearing is the literal airbrakes releasing as they transition.

Well they said the first guy cheated and you implied it. So whether it's air or parking brake, it doesn't matter. He used something other than the pedal brake to assist his launch

Summerwolf · 03-09-2016, 01:25 PM

The vehicles have airbrakes. The parking / trailer brakes are what you release with the button. He hit the button on the video.

I didn't imply it, I said using the parking brake would be considered cheating.

Ashikabi · 03-09-2016, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Summerwolf

The vehicles have airbrakes. The parking / trailer brakes are what you release with the button. He hit the button on the video.

I didn't imply it, I said using the parking brake would be considered cheating.

So he cheated and didn't break his stuff and #3 didn't great and did break his stuff.

Summerwolf · 03-09-2016, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashikabi

So he cheated and didn't break his stuff and #3 didn't great and did break his stuff.

I don't think any of them cheated.

bcj · 03-09-2016, 01:39 PM

All those noobs parking in the corners and harshing my flow in the touge

Ashikabi · 03-09-2016, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Summerwolf

I don't think any of them cheated.

Very well, why did the air brake release as he was pulling away? I don't know how semi truck brakes work, more I'm curious

03-09-2016, 01:20 PM	#106
Capt Spaulding Persona Non Grata Join Date: Nov 2015 Drives: '15 BRZ (WRB) Location: On the Border Posts: 1,882 Thanks: 2,016 Thanked 2,782 Times in 1,201 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	At the risk of interrupting a perfectly delightful D&^k M#!#%(g event, my experience teaching people to drive standards suggests that the hardest part of the process is the clutch release on startup. And, that the hardest part of that is learning how to feel and manage the friction point. My usual teaching tools are a large parking lot and my son's old 6 cyl Silverado. Sit the student in the driver's seat and tell them NOT to touch the throttle - AT ALL. Then we launch the truck/car in first w/o throttle until they feel comfortable and no longer stall. Then we launch in second until they feel comfortable. Then we launch in first and shift to second w/o throttle. Then we introduce the accelerator, then we learn to shift using the accelerator. Usually takes a half an hour. Once the student feels comfortable with what the clutch does and how to make it work for them, the rest is cake. It will take a while to learn it, but it's cake. To be sure, other cars will differ in feel. But once you learn the principles you can adapt to different cars pretty easily. Handbrake usage is in the eye of the beholder. BTW - the Chevy has 200k+ miles on it with the original clutch. Oh, and like the Nu Yawkah told the tourist who asked how to get to Carnegie Hall - practice - practice - practice. __________________ Slow is smooth, and smooth is fast

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