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86Tony · 02-18-2016, 06:53 PM

how much is the cs400 headers?

Cop · 02-18-2016, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

CSG is taking preorders now

Do I trade in my Type B now or...?

CounterSpace Garage · 02-18-2016, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Cop

Do I trade in my Type B now or...?

Different strokes for different folks.

AceHeader-MT · 02-18-2016, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 86Tony

how much is the cs400 headers?

http://aceheader.com/index.php/gt86-...lhd-rhd-detail

Jmonty · 02-19-2016, 12:30 AM

Type A 350 or CS400?

CSG David · 02-19-2016, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Jmonty

Type A 350 or CS400?

CS400 will have similar construction methodology as Type-B headers.

SPCorBUST · 02-19-2016, 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSG David

CS400 will have similar construction methodology as Type-B headers.

Which would make more power? More torque?

AceHeader-MT · 02-19-2016, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by SPCorBUST

Which would make more power? More torque?

Without dyno numbers this is all speculation, but we anticipate higher torque with the CS400 and higher HP with the 350 series.

This thinking is based on overall primary runner lengths

shiftspark · 02-19-2016, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike

CSG is taking preorders now

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kodename47

Abbey Motorsport is the one to talk to on that.

Thanks.

churchx · 02-19-2016, 06:01 AM

Preorders are nice thing with great savings chance .. but it's too hard to buy cat in the bag without seeing actual results.
Speculation only after comparing side by side pics of As/Bs/CS400 .. it seems like having runner lengths like that of 350 type, but with 150/250 overpipe by moving extra runner length from overpipe share back in front of engine via tighter/sharper bends in front, is it so?
In my guess without any dyno comparisons this may solve any clearance issues for RHD indeed, and may bring mid rpm 350-ish extra torque .. but A/B 350 may still perform slightly better overall area under curve wise due being a bit less resistant to flow with less sharp bends but similar longest runners length, no?
= "almost" 350 for RHD?

CSG David · 02-19-2016, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by churchx

Preorders are nice thing with great savings chance .. but it's too hard to buy cat in the bag without seeing actual results.
Speculation only after comparing side by side pics of As/Bs/CS400 .. it seems like having runner lengths like that of 350 type, but with 150/250 overpipe by moving extra runner length from overpipe share back in front of engine via tighter/sharper bends in front, is it so?
In my guess without any dyno comparisons this may solve any clearance issues for RHD indeed, and may bring mid rpm 350-ish extra torque .. but A/B 350 may still perform slightly better overall area under curve wise due being a bit less resistant to flow with less sharp bends but similar longest runners length, no?
= "almost" 350 for RHD?

True, but you also had your doubts about the Type-A 350 last year as well.

churchx · 02-20-2016, 03:53 AM

CSG David: last year doubts were other way around, with A/350 showing way worse results then it should given it's design (with OTS, Ace non specific tunes & w. stock tune), and so it really was, when pairing it with proper tune by you guys shown header's true capabilities. Think of it this way .. when one buys $1.5K header that needs to be shipped overseas and paid import duties + added ecutek dongle & tune tune on top with overall spending reaching $2.5-3K .. that seems stimulus big enough to wanting research first every possible information bit prior doing any purchase.

ollie · 02-20-2016, 05:26 PM

@churchx good point buddy. You can spend 1.2k more and get an HKS Supercharger including tune. Does not take way from ACE they are great headers.

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Traktor · 02-20-2016, 05:50 PM

Except that I've never heard of anyone blowing a stock FA20 after NA header and tune.
You get 35-45 whp gain with bulletproof reliability and minimum supporting mods, but you gotta pay!

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churchx Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Drives: 2014 GT86 Location: Latvia, Riga Posts: 4,336 Thanks: 698 Thanked 2,091 Times in 1,437 Posts Mentioned: 53 Post(s)	Preorders are nice thing with great savings chance .. but it's too hard to buy cat in the bag without seeing actual results. Speculation only after comparing side by side pics of As/Bs/CS400 .. it seems like having runner lengths like that of 350 type, but with 150/250 overpipe by moving extra runner length from overpipe share back in front of engine via tighter/sharper bends in front, is it so? In my guess without any dyno comparisons this may solve any clearance issues for RHD indeed, and may bring mid rpm 350-ish extra torque .. but A/B 350 may still perform slightly better overall area under curve wise due being a bit less resistant to flow with less sharp bends but similar longest runners length, no? = "almost" 350 for RHD?

02-20-2016, 03:53 AM	#642
churchx Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Drives: 2014 GT86 Location: Latvia, Riga Posts: 4,336 Thanks: 698 Thanked 2,091 Times in 1,437 Posts Mentioned: 53 Post(s)	CSG David: last year doubts were other way around, with A/350 showing way worse results then it should given it's design (with OTS, Ace non specific tunes & w. stock tune), and so it really was, when pairing it with proper tune by you guys shown header's true capabilities. Think of it this way .. when one buys $1.5K header that needs to be shipped overseas and paid import duties + added ecutek dongle & tune tune on top with overall spending reaching $2.5-3K .. that seems stimulus big enough to wanting research first every possible information bit prior doing any purchase.

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ollie Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: GT86 Location: Sydney Posts: 78 Thanks: 156 Thanked 29 Times in 23 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s)	@churchx good point buddy. You can spend 1.2k more and get an HKS Supercharger including tune. Does not take way from ACE they are great headers. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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Traktor Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Drives: Subaru BRZ Limited Location: MD, USA Posts: 92 Thanks: 44 Thanked 37 Times in 22 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s)	Except that I've never heard of anyone blowing a stock FA20 after NA header and tune. You get 35-45 whp gain with bulletproof reliability and minimum supporting mods, but you gotta pay! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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