Most power Normally Aspirated?

[CatScan]

I spent a lot of money to be able to get to the booze store this quickly. I'll be real mad if Mike is faster for less.

Edit: It's not really a Bentley, it's my FR-S.

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[Mike Brz]

Originally Posted by FRS Justin

1. Your ET / MPH computed from your vehicle weight of 2800 pounds and HP of 221 is 13.58 seconds and MPH of 99.53 MPH


2. Your Horsepower computed from your vehicle weight of 2800 pounds and MPH of 99 is 209.34.


3. Your HP is 212.33 computed from your vehicle weight of 2800 pounds and ET of 13.75 seconds


Ok so in scenario 1 considering time to shift, weather and track conditions. 221 hp is plausible. that kills me but it's the truth....


Scenario 2 That does not consider the same variables as in 1. considering all variables then again yes 221 is plausible.


Scenario 3 Is another form of scenario 2 so I can not say it is impossible.


More info such as humidity, alt, true weight, dyno settings and correction values are needed.

So in closing Mr. Mike might just have hit 221hp based on CF SMH

Another thing to consider is he is running a 2.0 60ft which is killing his ET If he could hit a 1.70. to 1.75 you might just see one of the fastest passes of a frs. BUT THAT IS NOT EASY TO ACCOMPLISH!!!!

Yea shaving off .43 seconds is gonna be tough but i think the new tires will help alot

[Mike Brz]

Originally Posted by brandonblt2

wow this is not locked yet im surprised

I think the ft86 gods are ok with it as long as ppl arent acting like fools and posting memes

[CatScan]

Originally Posted by Mike Brz

I think the ft86 gods are ok with it as long as ppl arent acting like fools and posting memes

I read this whole thread. There are memes and there is proof. Lot's of memes so far, not much proof.

[weederr33]

Originally Posted by Mike Brz

Why not make a fast na twin? They are slow from the factory and its really bad when u go from a 12 sec car to a brz (15 sec car)
Who said im all about straight line? But it is one of the best ways to gauge power.
Yes i know its not intended to be a dragster... and this is far from a dragster lol. Im just doing what i do with every car i own, i make them faster. I enjoy it.

There are plenty of people on here who have made quick NA twins. But you don't see them boasting about their whp or their 1/4 times or trying to prove to everyone they're a genius because most are all about autocross and tracking. If they care about power then they go to a dyno. THAT is how you gauge power, not a 1/4.
The reason I point out about being a dragster is because that's all you talk about, bruv! A 15 sec BRZ in a straight line means nothing around a track....

[FRSBRZGT86FAN]

Originally Posted by Mike Brz

I think the ft86 gods are ok with it as long as ppl arent acting like fools and posting memes

No you were told specifically don't bring back old threads from the dead and to only post the claims in this thread So I'm going to try and make sure this isn't locked

[FRS Justin]

Originally Posted by weederr33

There are plenty of people on here who have made quick NA twins. But you don't see them boasting about their whp or their 1/4 times or trying to prove to everyone they're a genius because most are all about autocross and tracking. If they care about power then they go to a dyno. THAT is how you gauge power, not a 1/4.
The reason I point out about being a dragster is because that's all you talk about, bruv! A 15 sec BRZ in a straight line means nothing around a track....

These cars have been proven to be able to handle just about anything you can throw at them from tracking to drag. Just because you don't have a love for one of the ways this car is being used it shouldn't be dismissed. A dyno can be manipulated track times and ET slips show power as it's directly related to performance. JMO

[weederr33]

Originally Posted by FRS Justin

These cars have been proven to be able to handle just about anything you can throw at them from tracking to drag. Just because you don't have a love for one of the ways this car is being used it shouldn't be dismissed. A dyno can be manipulated track times and ET slips show power as it's directly related to performance. JMO

I have no doubt people drag our cars. But doing it NA seems kinda silly....

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Mike Brz

Yea shaving off .43 seconds is gonna be tough but i think the new tires will help alot

I still have a feeling that changing your FD ratio will get you closer than any other adjustment.


humfrz

[FRS Justin]

Originally Posted by weederr33

I have no doubt people drag our cars. But doing it NA seems kinda silly....

Their are N/A classes and F/I classes I have ran both but beating a 5.0 or challenger N/A is a good feeling lol

[Mike Brz]

Originally Posted by humfrz

I still have a feeling that changing your FD ratio will get you closer than any other adjustment.


humfrz

thats basically what m doing by changing to a smaller tire size. Im going one part at a time so a 4.56 might be in the future

[fumanchu1]

Originally Posted by FRS Justin

1. Your ET / MPH computed from your vehicle weight of 2800 pounds and HP of 221 is 13.58 seconds and MPH of 99.53 MPH


2. Your Horsepower computed from your vehicle weight of 2800 pounds and MPH of 99 is 209.34.


3. Your HP is 212.33 computed from your vehicle weight of 2800 pounds and ET of 13.75 seconds


Ok so in scenario 1 considering time to shift, weather and track conditions. 221 hp is plausible. that kills me but it's the truth....


Scenario 2 That does not consider the same variables as in 1. considering all variables then again yes 221 is plausible.


Scenario 3 Is another form of scenario 2 so I can not say it is impossible.


More info such as humidity, alt, true weight, dyno settings and correction values are needed.

So in closing Mr. Mike might just have hit 221hp based on CF SMH

Another thing to consider is he is running a 2.0 60ft which is killing his ET If he could hit a 1.70. to 1.75 you might just see one of the fastest passes of a frs. BUT THAT IS NOT EASY TO ACCOMPLISH!!!!

All well and good Justin but I was able to find several software that did those calculations for me(not saying he did that but doing so isn't so hard).


My main issue rests with his dyno run video he claims as concrete proof. Yet as we've discussed the data in that video/dyno was significantly manipulated vehicle weight and weather correction factor being the main visible ones (limited view in video).


So while theoretically the numbers of the 1/4 mile run add up, it wouldn't take more than a few minutes to fabricate them to suit his purpose. Until he presents concrete, non-trivial/sketchy proof I will treat him like human waste that lies through his teeth

[ATL BRZ]

Originally Posted by fumanchu1

Until he presents concrete, non-trivial/sketchy proof I will treat him like human waste that lies through his teeth

This.

[FRS Justin]

Originally Posted by fumanchu1

All well and good Justin but I was able to find several software that did those calculations for me(not saying he did that but doing so isn't so hard).


My main issue rests with his dyno run video he claims as concrete proof. Yet as we've discussed the data in that video/dyno was significantly manipulated vehicle weight and weather correction factor being the main visible ones (limited view in video).


So while theoretically the numbers of the 1/4 mile run add up, it wouldn't take more than a few minutes to fabricate them to suit his purpose. Until he presents concrete, non-trivial/sketchy proof I will treat him like human waste that lies through his teeth

I have to agree that the dyno video showing 4250 vehicle weight is to say the least, hard to swallow.. But I'm trying to be neutral in this the numbers do add up that is a fact but the proof of the run and the dyno video are as you say are very sketchy. When filming a pass point the camera forward and film the car crossing the line and the track ET and MPH is shown like in all my videos, That is solid proof, but a ride along facing backwards really doesn't prove anything. Also enter in the correct data and only use a CF for alt and weather on dyno vids.
Do I agree with his proof "no" but I will offer him a chance to make good on it an put the ball in his hands to produce in his time a pass video that collaborates his claims..
To be honest ET is the only real thing that matters I could care less about dyno claims because its just a tool. He dug his hole lets see if he climbs out.
I just believe it's only right to give everyone a chance before I unleash brutal honesty on them....
I will gladly drop my N/A motor back in to my car and show how 204 hp will spank the ass on a 221 hp car any day any place when someone puts it out there and I see thru it.......