Turbo version confirmed? (apologize for this if its a re-post)

[Captain Snooze]

Originally Posted by nix

Guess what snooze you're not everybody either.

No one is trying to force you to put an exhaust on your car so try not to be so condescending to people who might want to drive this car hard.

How was I being condescending? I was pointing out gross generalisations made by Ballsak2nv . I quite agree that this car isn't powerful enough for everybody but I am suggesting it will be powerful enough for some. His statement "and will never really satisfy anyone" is factually incorrect.

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

I fully appreciate it's not powerful enough for you but you are not everybody.

[#87]

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[st162celica]

Originally Posted by #87

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[denkigrve]

Originally Posted by Varvs

the S13/180sx is no powerhouse, making only 150kw at the fly from the factory. the reason they are so popular though is that due to the turbo, it is easy to extract a comfortable amount of power with good response.

with a turbo back exhaust, aftermarket side mount IC and an intake filter upgrade and a $20 boost tee I have a heap more power and a much more fun car. if i went up to a larger turbo, even only slightly, i could be seeing another 10-30kw depending how risky I like to run.


with NA engines, you start with the basics (intake, exhaust, headers) but once youve done that, and perhaps a remap, there isnt a lot of modifications you can make that are inexpensive and easy to do. Cams, cam gears and headwork are all very expensive and dont net as much power as the bolt ones you can apply to a turbo engine.


a turbo model will make this much easier to tune and play around with. the NA is just to test the waters to see if the market is there, and it definitely is. watch them release forced induction models next refresh.

If this is true then explain the love for the AE86? Explain why people still drive on 4AGE bluetop motors and love their cars. Snooze said it best. What's desirable for some is not desirable for others.

No-one seems to get that this car is designed as a budget platform car. You buy the platform, and then modify it to fit your needs. Tada-san already stated that the ideal ride height is 20mm lower than stock, and the suspension components are ready to be lowered to that height.

Just enjoy the car for what it is, a drivers car. If all you want to do is go fast in a straight line then go for it. I drifted and drove the shit out of my blue top AE86 for years. I was driving on an open LSD for a while. It was a fun ass car. My FR-S so far feels even more tuned already, and I'm looking forward to many years of driving that NA motor and enjoying learning it's limits without wanting exorbitant amounts of power. It's what I enjoy.

You don't equal everyone.
Everyone doesn't equal you.
I don't equal you.
You don't equal me.

Everyone's needs and desires for their car are different, and that's what makes this platform great. It's easy to get in on, and the possibilities will be almost endless.

[manonastick]

lucky i like n/a cars

[Nafe]

Originally Posted by Varvs

the S13/180sx is no powerhouse, making only 150kw at the fly from the factory. the reason they are so popular though is that due to the turbo, it is easy to extract a comfortable amount of power with good response.

with a turbo back exhaust, aftermarket side mount IC and an intake filter upgrade and a $20 boost tee I have a heap more power and a much more fun car. if i went up to a larger turbo, even only slightly, i could be seeing another 10-30kw depending how risky I like to run.


with NA engines, you start with the basics (intake, exhaust, headers) but once youve done that, and perhaps a remap, there isnt a lot of modifications you can make that are inexpensive and easy to do. Cams, cam gears and headwork are all very expensive and dont net as much power as the bolt ones you can apply to a turbo engine.


a turbo model will make this much easier to tune and play around with. the NA is just to test the waters to see if the market is there, and it definitely is. watch them release forced induction models next refresh.

Please don’t explain to me how to produce more power from n/a and turbo engines. I am not an idiot. My first drift car was a turbo s13. My last drift car was an r32 with an rb25det. Neither particularly standard. I have been playing with import cars for the better part of a decade. I know very well how easy it is to produce power from turbo engines.
I would be disappointed getting 10kw out of a turbo upgrade.

My favourite drift car was my ae86. This was natro with alot of engine work. It had a stroker crank, high comp pistons, light weight mods, big cams, alot of headwork, extractors, computer, etc. So I also know how “challenging”/expensive results can be from N/A engines. And some rough plans I had in mind for my 86 were cams, gears, remap, intake, headers.

None of which is relevant to my post? My post was in regards to people saying “it needs more power”. As I said, you may think it does. But I may not. I don’t think it’s fair, or even possible, for any of us to say it does or doesn’t yet, because none of us have driven the car. Saying the N/A model is just to test the waters is a call only TMCA can make. They built it N/A for a reason. There may or may not be FI variations in the future, but it wasn’t built N/A to test the waters.

Balsak - 200hp can be enough to drift with. My AE86 had lower power to weight ratio and I drifted that car often and had a great time in it.

[coyote]

My friend over at VSS has informed me that last month, Inchcape (Subaru Australia) submitted an application for approval to fit compliance plates to a 4 seat rwd car with a 2.0 litre turbocharged engine.

That is all I know.

[samsung001]

Originally Posted by coyote

My friend over at VSS has informed me that last month, Inchcape (Subaru Australia) submitted an application for approval to fit compliance plates to a 4 seat rwd car with a 2.0 litre turbocharged engine.

That is all I know.

I wish its for real. If Subaru making a turbocharged version, surely there's a TRD version available next year. Does it make sense?

I think i better hold my deposit for now. i really prefer turbo/super charged version rather than NA. Honestly, i love sports cars, but i'm not that kinda hardcore or think that 86 has to be NA or etc.......if i end up buy one, i will track it probably 4-6 times a yr...so the rest of the 359 days, it will be my daily. SO....wouldn't be gd to have extra power for straight line or open road?

[nix]

I think there are a few people being pedantic for the sake of an argument. Hands down, any person serious about drifting this car will be chasing power even if it's just breather mods + reflash. Same as an ae86, s15, whatever.

[Nafe]

Originally Posted by nix

I think there are a few people being pedantic for the sake of an argument. Hands down, any person serious about drifting this car will be chasing power even if it's just breather mods + reflash. Same as an ae86, s15, whatever.

Who are you referring to specifically?
I said I will be doing exhaust/headers, intake and cams. So i didn't say it will be left standard. I jstu said you don't need turbo for successful drifting. Ala n/a ae86's.

[nix]

Fair enough, I misinterpreted you. I'll be looking at similar options but holding off the planning stage until the ecu is unlocked, have you looked into cams options yet I've heard up and down reports on em for the fa20.

[Nafe]

Not seriosuly I haven't. Because of the ecu. It's probably not really worth it at this stage.I know HKS have cams avaialble, but that is it. Haven't even looked into exu at this stage