How NOT to drive on the track - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

justatroll · 01-30-2016, 05:09 PM

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvDqFqvnxdk"]R8 & GT86 Track Day (With A Crash) - YouTube[/ame]

Money shift results in rapid excursion from controlled flight.....@ 7:11

FRSBRZGT86FAN · 01-30-2016, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by justatroll

Money shift results in rapid excursion from controlled flight.....@ 7:11

I don't know much about track driving but did accidentally downshift from 5 to 2nd?

Summerwolf · 01-30-2016, 05:28 PM

Yes. Locked up rear wheels and went in to an uncontrolled skid.

If someone claims they have never mis-shifted a car they are lying, this just happened to be a horrible outcome.

D88 · 01-30-2016, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN

I don't know much about track driving but did accidentally downshift from 5 to 2nd?

He says at the end he mistakenly shifted from 5th to 2nd locking up the rear wheels.

jvincent · 01-30-2016, 05:33 PM

If you watched to the end, that's what he said he did.

Not wanting to be a backseat driver, but he spent way too much time in 5th gear on the R8 and he was in fifth before he wrecked the twin. But he was only doing 90MPH.

If you've tracked a twin you'll know that you shouldn't be anywhere near 5th gear at that speed. You've still got plenty of room in 4th. I wouldn't even think of going to fifth until at least 100MPH and only then if there were a lot of straight away left.

So in summary, his gear management sucks.

PureShield · 01-30-2016, 05:51 PM

Sucks to see that happened. Glad to see the driver is ok though but that's one of the risks you take tracking your car.

Teseo · 01-30-2016, 05:55 PM

Rookie

menikmati · 01-30-2016, 05:57 PM

I followed his rebuild progress, car is back up and running.

continuecrushing · 01-30-2016, 05:58 PM

how did none of the airbags go off?

FRSapex · 01-30-2016, 06:59 PM

I saw this vid a while ago - he actually goes on to chronicle this FRS's repair

Ultramaroon · 01-30-2016, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by FRSapex

I saw this vid a while ago - he actually goes on to chronicle this FRS's repair

Somewhere here is linked a clip of just the incident.

Here's my take. I'll guess he's used to driving his R8 which has a gated shifter. His muscle memory is settled pretty hard into it.

In the R8, the downshift requires a deliberate jog to the left. The 86 doesn't.

See where I'm going with this?

Also, that was not a 100 mi/h.

mdm · 01-30-2016, 08:00 PM

If he had AT with paddle-shifters.... ;-)

Hoahao · 01-30-2016, 08:18 PM

I hope he had track insurance

Ultramaroon · 01-30-2016, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mdm

If he had AT with paddle-shifters.... ;-)

01-30-2016, 05:09 PM	#1
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