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Old 06-09-2012, 01:18 AM   #15
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I had a k+n in a mustang for 70k miles and the engine light came on since the day I installed it.
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Old 06-09-2012, 02:58 AM   #16
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I have the TRD filter in my fr-s. worth the $49 I spent.
Where did you buy that from?
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Old 06-09-2012, 04:19 AM   #17
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Thats the question... Not sure if anyone knows yet.
Typically, drop in filters make power, but on cars like this- its often 5HP or less...

Right now the only dyno figures I have seen are on prototype replacement intake 'systems'
I forgot to put the stock filter back in when I dynoed our car.

This dyno was with a K&N drop in.

http://www.141motors.com/fr-s/dyno.jpg

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http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8146

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Old 06-09-2012, 11:54 AM   #18
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If you look at the waves of the stock filter and the waves of the k&n


The k&n is tighter ....means that there is more surface area = more flow

For now that may not matter but with exhaust and other addon it will make .0000001 sec difference lol
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Old 06-09-2012, 12:15 PM   #19
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I have ordered a K&N drop in filter, but I would love to see a dyno if it gives you any extra at all.
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I wouldn't get just a drop in-- i'd get a short ram or something. Just a drop in wouldn't get you much power, but would likely give a bit better response, MPG and sound. I would love to get a heat-wrapped full intake though.
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Are you guys seriously thinking that a drop in filter will add any noticeable power??? A drop in filter isn't increasing the amount of air sucked into the intake enough to actually help the performance of the engine. IMO K&Ns are just a waste of money I mean sure they last "forever" but you still have to clean and oil them. I'd much rather just pay the $50 for a brand new filter every 10k miles or so..

If you really want to add performance through an intake system just get a CAI or SRI even then I doubt those will add much a noticeable difference alone. Full bolt ons and a tune would be the only real way to get a nice performance increase that would be noticeable.
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Anyone dyno'd a TRD filter in the FR-S yet? their may be a thread but I can't find it.
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Are you guys seriously thinking that a drop in filter will add any noticeable power??? A drop in filter isn't increasing the amount of air sucked into the intake enough to actually help the performance of the engine. IMO K&Ns are just a waste of money I mean sure they last "forever" but you still have to clean and oil them. I'd much rather just pay the $50 for a brand new filter every 10k miles or so..

If you really want to add performance through an intake system just get a CAI or SRI even then I doubt those will add much a noticeable difference alone. Full bolt ons and a tune would be the only real way to get a nice performance increase that would be noticeable.
No not crazy not expecting any power increase but since the TRD drop in will cost me about $50 and it's reusable I think it will tide me over until a decent CAI comes out
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No not crazy not expecting any power increase but since the TRD drop in will cost me about $50 and it's reusable I think it will tide me over until a decent CAI comes out
I think I will definatly do a cold air intake.
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Ordered the 33-3252 because it's the only stock legal intake mod allowed in SCCA
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Are you guys seriously thinking that a drop in filter will add any noticeable power??? A drop in filter isn't increasing the amount of air sucked into the intake enough to actually help the performance of the engine. IMO K&Ns are just a waste of money I mean sure they last "forever" but you still have to clean and oil them. I'd much rather just pay the $50 for a brand new filter every 10k miles or so..

If you really want to add performance through an intake system just get a CAI or SRI even then I doubt those will add much a noticeable difference alone. Full bolt ons and a tune would be the only real way to get a nice performance increase that would be noticeable.
By increasing flow, which some drop-in filters do, it will increase engine efficiency and power. Will it be enough to notice? Probably not, but it will still exist. And not all CAI's increase power. Most are nothing more than cosmetic items where a drop-in filter replacement would have done a better job.

All that said, I agree with your last statement that you won't really notice any real power gains without installing decent parts and tuning for your parts and your car specifically.

As for re-oiling and all that nonsense, just buy another high end filter and throw the old one away. The re-oil kit is going to cost you about $15 to $20 already. Then add in your time to do it. And, if it's your only filter, you shouldn't drive without it in the car, so you'll have to wait while it dries and is ready for re-installation. Time alone, it is not worth it for me.

I will probably buy the TRD filter as the K&N's do come with a little too much oil for my liking. However, if the oil is fowling the MAF, just take it out and spray some electronics cleaner to fix the problem when you switch back to a better filter.
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If you're planning on keeping the factory airbox for the life of the vehicle, a K&N and a filter cleaning kit can save you some money over buying paper filters every 15k miles. I'd wait until 15k when the stock one is dirty and then swap over. I doubt it'll pick up much if any extra power but not having to piss through $30ish every 15k on a paper filter ain't a bad idea. If you plan on getting an aftermarket intake, I woundn't bother.
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