Thoughts on tipping?

[Andrew025]

Originally Posted by Kiske

Do you tip more or less if it has the electronic self checkout things at the table like Chili's has started?

I asked one of the waitresses at Red Robin and she said tips are more or less basically the same.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Kiske

Do you tip more or less if it has the electronic self checkout things at the table like Chili's has started?

Originally Posted by Andrew025

I asked one of the waitresses at Red Robin and she said tips are more or less basically the same.

WTF, this is a thing? I refuse to use the self checkout at the grocery/big box stores. I'd do it if I got a 10% discount. Otherwise, I expect the transaction to be performed by another human being.

[pushrod]

At the Domino's Pizza near my place, the machine asks if you want to leave a tip. On a hunch, I asked the girl serving me if the tips entered into the machine are payed out. She said she's never received a cent in tips while working there. Ergo, by leaving a tip, I'd actually be tipping the store.

[Kiske]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

WTF, this is a thing? I refuse to use the self checkout at the grocery/big box stores. I'd do it if I got a 10% discount. Otherwise, I expect the transaction to be performed by another human being.

I love it, they have pictures of all the food and I'm at the table and ordered in about 1min. If I don't want something I can type it in easily. No tomato, no problem. No sitting around to pay either. Just swipe the card and be done.

About the only thing the wait staff does is hand you stuff.

Hell even if the staff goes AWOL and you need salt/sauce whatever, you hit a button and it pages them.

[Captain Snooze]

Originally Posted by extrashaky

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economics

I stopped reading when I read "social science".

[pushrod]

Originally Posted by extrashaky

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economics

Supply and demand is definitely Wikipedia / College Diploma / Second year university undergrad level stuff. Thanks for showing us this magical concept.

[Andrew025]

Originally Posted by Kiske

I love it, they have pictures of all the food and I'm at the table and ordered in about 1min. If I don't want something I can type it in easily. No tomato, no problem. No sitting around to pay either. Just swipe the card and be done.

About the only thing the wait staff does is hand you stuff.

Hell even if the staff goes AWOL and you need salt/sauce whatever, you hit a button and it pages them.

They only thing I use it for is paying. Which is nice since you don't have to wait around.

[extrashaky]

Originally Posted by ButeraFRS

Oh, this explains a lot. Getting your understanding of economics from Wikipedia. Gotcha!

No, actually I learned it from one of Thomas Schelling's proteges. I linked the Wikipedia page because I didn't really think you could handle anything more complicated.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

I stopped reading when I read "social science".

One of my pet peeves. I had to sit through a semester of an econ professor drone on with claims of scientific rigor while on several occasions without a hint of irony, he explained to us how a particular study disproved the Law Of Such & Such so it was replaced with the Law Of Blah-Dee-Blah.

It was awful and I did not go quietly.

Originally Posted by extrashaky

No, actually I learned it from one of Thomas Schelling's proteges. I linked the Wikipedia page because I didn't really think you could handle anything more complicated.

Woah watch out! Got a real scholar here!

KNAWLEDGE!

[pushrod]

Originally Posted by extrashaky

No, actually I learned it from one of Thomas Schelling's proteges. I linked the Wikipedia page because I didn't really think you could handle anything more complicated.

Girl walks up to me and says, "what you drivin'?"

and I said, "Bugatti".

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Kiske

I love it, they have pictures of all the food and I'm at the table and ordered in about 1min. If I don't want something I can type it in easily. No tomato, no problem. No sitting around to pay either. Just swipe the card and be done.

About the only thing the wait staff does is hand you stuff.

Hell even if the staff goes AWOL and you need salt/sauce whatever, you hit a button and it pages them.

I feel old.

I'm okay with it but, yeah. Old.

[Impureclient]

Originally Posted by pushrod

At the Domino's Pizza near my place, the machine asks if you want to leave a tip......by leaving a tip, I'd actually be tipping the store.

What!! I tip very generously when getting to go food, especially at nice restaurants and I just want to eat at home instead.
They(whoever took my order and brought the food out) better have been getting that money and not the business. I guess I'll have to start asking who gets the money from now on.

[soulreapersteve]

Originally Posted by extrashaky

Not sure if this is sarcasm.

My first job in television news, I made $18,000. I didn't like that salary. So I busted my ass for two years and got my next job for $25K. Then the next one six months later for $33K. Overall I tripled my salary in ten years in the business, but I realized that I would soon cap out and not go much higher no matter how hard I worked, because that's how much the job was worth on the market.

So I went back to school, sat for the CPA exam and reset my upper limit. I traded work that was physically demanding for a job that was much more lucrative. I worked "harder" in television but was actually making the same salary in my first accounting job as in my last television job.

When I returned to school, I didn't go to an Ivy League college. I went to an urban state school. Around 30% to 40% of my classmates were from predominantly poor, African-American areas of town. One guy I knew went to one of the worst, most violent high schools in my city, but he had a job with Deloitte waiting for him when he graduated. If he's still there five years later, he's making at least $70K per year even if he's struggling along as a low performer.

So don't tell me the American dream doesn't exist. If you don't like your circumstances, change them. It's not easy. But life isn't "fair" either, and complaining about how much other people make doesn't raise your own value in the marketplace in the slightest.

Story sounds pretty similar to mine. Out of high school, I was working retail for 2 years and only made 8.56 (WA's previous min wage). It was soul sucking and was simply treated like shit by the pretending-to-be-rich people who shopped there. I hated it and started to come down with depression.

Someone said I should go to college and I did. 2 years after that, not saying specific numbers, I'm making much, much more than I did before.

So I pretty much agree with Extra. The Dream does exist, you just have to endure and want to get there (picking a STEM field does help!)