Edelbrock E-Force Supercharger

[hmong337]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

At the factory supplied boost level, yes, but much, much quieter.

What's your opinion on the Edelbrock SC vs JRSC? Which setup do you like more? Is one better than the other? If you were to choose, which would you buy and why? What's your opinion on roots vs rotrex?

[sam69]

Ok just scanned this whole thread looking for the size of the intercooler radiator ie; length x height x width so if
some one can help out that would be so

[Edelbrock LLC]

Originally Posted by BigFatFlip

I've been trying to ask this question here for a while now with no response from @Edelbrock LLC or others. I would guess it would be along the same lines as other FI applications: shorter oil change intervals (I get mine analyzed, so I'll base my intervals on that), and keeping a closer eye on wear items (clutch, brakes, etc). I did ask about the 100k mi service during the factory tour and it would involve you taking off the SC and sending it over to them to perform the service.

Like all our kits, the E-Force systems are all self contained oil system. It does not effect your engine oil change intervals at all.

The 100k mile service can be performed by the customer. Its as simple as removing the top section of the supercharger assembly. Draining the oil from the fill hole on the rear and refilling with the correct oil. It does not have to be serviced by Edelbrock.

[BigFatFlip]

Originally Posted by Edelbrock LLC

Like all our kits, the E-Force systems are all self contained oil system. It does not effect your engine oil change intervals at all.

The 100k mile service can be performed by the customer. Its as simple as removing the top section of the supercharger assembly. Draining the oil from the fill hole on the rear and refilling with the correct oil. It does not have to be serviced by Edelbrock.

Great info, thanks Edelbrock! Still doesn't answer the question of what additional maintenance to the CAR is needed once the SC is installed. If it's a "we don't really know/you're on your own" then just say so nothing wrong with that, it's what I would expect from going FI, just would be nice if you have any input.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by BigFatFlip

Great info, thanks Edelbrock! Still doesn't answer the question of what additional maintenance to the CAR is needed once the SC is installed. If it's a "we don't really know/you're on your own" then just say so nothing wrong with that, it's what I would expect from going FI, just would be nice if you have any input.

If you drive harder, you should maintain more rigorously. If you're driving the same, then you can probably do the same maintenance as before without issue.

[BigFatFlip]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

If you drive harder, you should maintain more rigorously. If you're driving the same, then you can probably do the same maintenance as before without issue.

This is what I'm doing anyway, was just wondering if Edelbrock had a recommendation.

[tracerit]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

If you drive harder, you should maintain more rigorously. If you're driving the same, then you can probably do the same maintenance as before without issue.

Sounds to me like there will be no new additional maintenance, just a bit more of the routine maintenance one should already be doing. If so that's great,this would be my first major mod and knowing it's truly just drop and go pretty excited.

[Edelbrock LLC]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

If you drive harder, you should maintain more rigorously. If you're driving the same, then you can probably do the same maintenance as before without issue.

Its normal maintenance like Mike mentioned. If the car is driven rather aggressive, the more its recommended to change the oil sooner than recommended but if the car is driven normally then there would not be any reason to have to so anything out of the ordinary as far as maintenance is concerned.

- Eddie L
Edelbrock LLC

[BigFatFlip]

Originally Posted by Edelbrock LLC

Its normal maintenance like Mike mentioned. If the car is driven rather aggressive, the more its recommended to change the oil sooner than recommended but if the car is driven normally then there would not be any reason to have to so anything out of the ordinary as far as maintenance is concerned.

- Eddie L
Edelbrock LLC

Thanks Eddie! I didn't want to belabor the point, just wanted you guys to chime in since I see the question come up quite often on this and the other thread from prospective owners, so I think you guys just gave yourselves another major selling point!

Just a quick review since I haven't said much since getting the kit. I took my car to what I thought was a pretty good hard canyon run/hill climb with lots of prolonged pulls (with a family, I'm no longer able to go to the track, so morning canyon drives will have to do). Throttle response was excellent. Engine oil temps peaked at 235 F as I climbed the hill (Mt Hamilton in San Jose CA) IAT temps stayed at around 60 F (45-50 F ambient). Having additional torque allowed me to stay in gear and focus on my throttle control, braking and steering. On the downside, my heel and toe technique will probably suffer even more due to lack of practice There is now some rear end control with the throttle (understeering? Give it a little bit more gas!). @shiumai i did a handful of 2nd and 3rd gear redline pulls and did not hear the rasp discussed earlier in this thread. The only weird thing I noticed was some rattling from the shifter (clutch? trans?) when coasting at higher rpms (~4-6k rpm).

Overall, Edelbrock did an excellent job, very happy with this product! Now when can we expect a Russell oil cooler for the track folks?

[tracerit]

In the quest to pinch more pennies, would I be able to rent an Ecutek hardware kit from say motoeast (or does @CounterSpace Garage offer rental kits too?) for $70 ($350 up front, $270 refunded on return), buy an Ecutek license (which is needed) for $350 and then download the CARB tune for free, this would end up being $5070 total ($4650 kit, $70 Ecutek hardware, $350 Ecutek license, $0 CARB tune).

I'd save $330 instead of getting the CARB kit for $5400. Unless I need to get the CARB kit to get the CARB sticker, which now sounds obvious...

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by tracerit

In the quest to pinch more pennies, would I be able to rent an Ecutek hardware kit from say motoeast (or does @CounterSpace Garage offer rental kits too?) for $70 ($350 up front, $270 refunded on return), buy an Ecutek license (which is needed) for $350 and then download the CARB tune for free, this would end up being $5070 total ($4650 kit, $70 Ecutek hardware, $350 Ecutek license, $0 CARB tune).

I'd save $330 instead of getting the CARB kit for $5400. Unless I need to get the CARB kit to get the CARB sticker, which now sounds obvious...

Only if you want your tune tied to someone else's EcuTek dongle

[86 South Africa]

Originally Posted by tracerit

Sounds to me like there will be no new additional maintenance, just a bit more of the routine maintenance one should already be doing. If so that's great,this would be my first major mod and knowing it's truly just drop and go pretty excited.

I agree... And it's a huge reason I'm keen on this particular kit too!

[CounterSpace Garage]

Originally Posted by tracerit

In the quest to pinch more pennies, would I be able to rent an Ecutek hardware kit from say motoeast (or does @CounterSpace Garage offer rental kits too?) for $70 ($350 up front, $270 refunded on return), buy an Ecutek license (which is needed) for $350 and then download the CARB tune for free, this would end up being $5070 total ($4650 kit, $70 Ecutek hardware, $350 Ecutek license, $0 CARB tune).

I'd save $330 instead of getting the CARB kit for $5400. Unless I need to get the CARB kit to get the CARB sticker, which now sounds obvious...

The EcuTek cable is required as the tune will be tied to that specific Dongle ID. Please contact us if you have a desire to purchase a separate EcuTek kit.

[switchlanez]

EDIT: This sounds exactly like @shiumai's / @tracerit's noise. Seems this is cam timing doing it's thing so I'm cool and done.

EDIT #2: I reproduced the same pulsating sound in my 6-speed Suzuki SX4 under the same input conditions, just not as pronounced. I've concluded it's the increased mass of air/exhaust combined with the lightweight flywheel winding down faster that amplify the pulsation that's always been there. And there's the signature rumble that can come out on modded boxer engines.


Just got the kit installed this week and been familiarizing myself with the new sounds. Audible intake turbulence is most apparent when mashing the throttle after every upshift. On top of that, I hear these other noises. Wondering if other owners also get the following noises that I'd attribute to the massive intake's new NVH harmonics or if it's just my car. Note: You need headphones or good quality speakers to hear these subtle noises.

Timestamp 0:00 to 0:01
Decelerating in 5th gear, not applying throttle nor brakes. There is a reverberation. This pulsating occasionally happens when I let off throttle in any gear. Is that a harmonic induced by the intake?

Timestamp 0:03 to 0:05
Starting at 0:03 I apply 2/3 throttle and hold it there. Starting at 0:04 noise amplifies then cuts out at 0:05 though I have held throttle constant at 2/3 the whole time.

Near the end of the video I let off the throttle and you can hear the pulsating again.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXKCpfN0ZxQ"]Noise - YouTube[/ame]

Other mods just installed with the kit:
3-pluck clutch
lightweight flywheel
thicker rear axles

And I've always had a Greddy axle back prior but not this noise.