Innovate (Sprintex) Supercharger Owners Topic

[tegunulgener]

I cannot wait to see the results. I strongly consider about the same way atm

Better talk to Mark

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[Sazexa]

Hey everyone. I'm very interested in this kit. I've got a lot of upgrades planned for the car to go along with it. My main goal is to get rid of the mid range torque/power dip, while giving the car some extra oomph. Also, because of my location, I need to make sure no CEL codes come up, and that everything is emissions legal. With that said, here's a list of what I got planned:

- ACT XT Clutch & Flywheel
- Invidia N1 Cat-Back Exhaust
- (Possibly a header? If I can find one without bringing up engine/emissions issues)
- AFE Takeda Intake
- Deatschwerks 450CC Injectors
- Velox Fuel Rail
- Aeromotive 325 Fuel Pump
- Cusco +2mm Throttlebody
- Torque-Solutions Throttlebody Spacer
- Innovate Supercharger (Most likely the non-intercooled kit)

Basically I'm not an auto expert, and haven't had time to show any one who I know that is this parts list. I've tried to do research for good/smart part choices. I'm coming to you guys, who might have more knowledge than me, is there anything glaringly wrong with this, or is it too much for the stock engine? Mind you, I also plan on getting a tune. I'm looking for, hopefully, relatively reliable stuff, too. If it's needed to be known, my driving style isn't really too-hard on the car. A bit harder than most people, but I wouldn't say I race it. When accelerating, I'd say 80-90% of the time I make my shifts around 2.5-3.5k RPM's, and when accelerating a bit harder I usually shift before 5.5-6k RPM absolutely tops. I rarely bring the car over 6k RPM's; for the safe-side of things I'll say no more than 5 times per week.

Whatcha guys think?

[Books]

Originally Posted by Sazexa

Hey everyone. I'm very interested in this kit. I've got a lot of upgrades planned for the car to go along with it. My main goal is to get rid of the mid range torque/power dip, while giving the car some extra oomph. Also, because of my location, I need to make sure no CEL codes come up, and that everything is emissions legal. With that said, here's a list of what I got planned:

- ACT XT Clutch & Flywheel
- Invidia N1 Cat-Back Exhaust
- (Possibly a header? If I can find one without bringing up engine/emissions issues)
- AFE Takeda Intake
- Deatschwerks 450CC Injectors
- Velox Fuel Rail
- Aeromotive 325 Fuel Pump
- Cusco +2mm Throttlebody
- Torque-Solutions Throttlebody Spacer
- Innovate Supercharger (Most likely the non-intercooled kit)

Basically I'm not an auto expert, and haven't had time to show any one who I know that is this parts list. I've tried to do research for good/smart part choices. I'm coming to you guys, who might have more knowledge than me, is there anything glaringly wrong with this, or is it too much for the stock engine? Mind you, I also plan on getting a tune. I'm looking for, hopefully, relatively reliable stuff, too. If it's needed to be known, my driving style isn't really too-hard on the car. A bit harder than most people, but I wouldn't say I race it. When accelerating, I'd say 80-90% of the time I make my shifts around 2.5-3.5k RPM's, and when accelerating a bit harder I usually shift before 5.5-6k RPM absolutely tops. I rarely bring the car over 6k RPM's; for the safe-side of things I'll say no more than 5 times per week.

Whatcha guys think?

If you're getting the non intercooled kit, you can skip the fuel pump, injectors, and clutch. Why are you getting a new throttle body?

As an alternative, you could focus on getting the intercooled kit, oil cooler, and catch can to start off with. But also remember to upgrade your suspension, brakes, and especially tires too.

I'm also not sure if your chosen intake will fit the charger.

[Sazexa]

Originally Posted by Books

If you're getting the non intercooled kit, you can skip the fuel pump, injectors, and clutch. Why are you getting a new throttle body?

As an alternative, you could focus on getting the intercooled kit, oil cooler, and catch can to start off with. But also remember to upgrade your suspension, brakes, and especially tires too.

I'm also not sure if your chosen intake will fit the charger.

I was unsure about the intake fitting, too. Looking for feedback on ones that do work with it.

It's not a definite I won't be getting the intercooler. Just a consideration. I also forgot to mention radiator in there. I do have tires/rims/suspension and brakes all picked out, but left those out as they're not related to engine power/reliability.

I was told the throttle body would make a difference with the supercharger, so that's why it was considered. Any recommendations for the oil cooler and catch?

[stockysnail]

Originally Posted by Sazexa

Hey everyone. I'm very interested in this kit. I've got a lot of upgrades planned for the car to go along with it. My main goal is to get rid of the mid range torque/power dip, while giving the car some extra oomph. Also, because of my location, I need to make sure no CEL codes come up, and that everything is emissions legal. With that said, here's a list of what I got planned:

- ACT XT Clutch & Flywheel
- Invidia N1 Cat-Back Exhaust
- (Possibly a header? If I can find one without bringing up engine/emissions issues)
- AFE Takeda Intake
- Deatschwerks 450CC Injectors
- Velox Fuel Rail
- Aeromotive 325 Fuel Pump
- Cusco +2mm Throttlebody
- Torque-Solutions Throttlebody Spacer
- Innovate Supercharger (Most likely the non-intercooled kit)

Basically I'm not an auto expert, and haven't had time to show any one who I know that is this parts list. I've tried to do research for good/smart part choices. I'm coming to you guys, who might have more knowledge than me, is there anything glaringly wrong with this, or is it too much for the stock engine? Mind you, I also plan on getting a tune. I'm looking for, hopefully, relatively reliable stuff, too. If it's needed to be known, my driving style isn't really too-hard on the car. A bit harder than most people, but I wouldn't say I race it. When accelerating, I'd say 80-90% of the time I make my shifts around 2.5-3.5k RPM's, and when accelerating a bit harder I usually shift before 5.5-6k RPM absolutely tops. I rarely bring the car over 6k RPM's; for the safe-side of things I'll say no more than 5 times per week.

Whatcha guys think?

To stay CARB legal, you'll be running the 210 kit, which means you won't need the clutch, fuel rail, fuel pump, throttle body, injectors, or header. Get the intercooler as the car will run smoother as it won't need to retard timing. You'll be able to run the 70mm pulley and pull off around 240-250whp. This is where you should start.

If you want more then you'll need to run e85, which you'll need injectors and pump.
If you want even more, then you'll need to go with the 335 kit, e85, and all the other stuff you mentioned like clutch, but it won't be carb legal anymore, plus it would be wise to get forged engine internals. Moto-East seems to know the most about this kit and our cars so use them as a resource if you go to the 335 kit.

[Chad86]

Originally Posted by Chad86

I will wait for more information before I decide to order the JB PERFORMANCE SUPERCHARGER OIL WITH TRIBODYN. I would love to run lower temps on the supercharger and get more HP.

I ended up ordering the straight TriboDyn 75W90 to be on the safe side for now.

[smudge]

Originally Posted by Sazexa

Hey everyone. I'm very interested in this kit. I've got a lot of upgrades planned for the car to go along with it. My main goal is to get rid of the mid range torque/power dip, while giving the car some extra oomph. Also, because of my location, I need to make sure no CEL codes come up, and that everything is emissions legal. With that said, here's a list of what I got planned:

- ACT XT Clutch & Flywheel
- Invidia N1 Cat-Back Exhaust
- (Possibly a header? If I can find one without bringing up engine/emissions issues)
- AFE Takeda Intake
- Deatschwerks 450CC Injectors
- Velox Fuel Rail
- Aeromotive 325 Fuel Pump
- Cusco +2mm Throttlebody
- Torque-Solutions Throttlebody Spacer
- Innovate Supercharger (Most likely the non-intercooled kit)

Basically I'm not an auto expert, and haven't had time to show any one who I know that is this parts list. I've tried to do research for good/smart part choices. I'm coming to you guys, who might have more knowledge than me, is there anything glaringly wrong with this, or is it too much for the stock engine? Mind you, I also plan on getting a tune. I'm looking for, hopefully, relatively reliable stuff, too. If it's needed to be known, my driving style isn't really too-hard on the car. A bit harder than most people, but I wouldn't say I race it. When accelerating, I'd say 80-90% of the time I make my shifts around 2.5-3.5k RPM's, and when accelerating a bit harder I usually shift before 5.5-6k RPM absolutely tops. I rarely bring the car over 6k RPM's; for the safe-side of things I'll say no more than 5 times per week.

Whatcha guys think?

You'd be better off getting a full exhaust system than spending money on the new TB

New set of headers and a new front pipe to delete the OEM cats will prove a lot more effective than the TB

[Dream20b]

Originally Posted by smudge

You'd be better off getting a fuel exhaust system than spending money on the new TB

New set of headers and a new front pipe to delete the OEM cats will prove a lot more effective than the TB

I agree. The TB is only really a restriction once you're well over 300 RWHP and this kit won't get you there except on E85 with full supporting mods.

[Sazexa]

Originally Posted by stockysnail

To stay CARB legal, you'll be running the 210 kit, which means you won't need the clutch, fuel rail, fuel pump, throttle body, injectors, or header. Get the intercooler as the car will run smoother as it won't need to retard timing. You'll be able to run the 70mm pulley and pull off around 240-250whp. This is where you should start.

If you want more then you'll need to run e85, which you'll need injectors and pump.
If you want even more, then you'll need to go with the 335 kit, e85, and all the other stuff you mentioned like clutch, but it won't be carb legal anymore, plus it would be wise to get forged engine internals. Moto-East seems to know the most about this kit and our cars so use them as a resource if you go to the 335 kit.

Okay, sounds good. Like I said, I don't need it super fast, just a bit smoother and a bit more power. I'm stilling considering a clutch & flywheel simply because I'd like to be able to release the clutch faster? If that's makes sense or is how it works. Release it faster, and not damage the clutch/transmission.

Originally Posted by smudge

You'd be better off getting a full exhaust system than spending money on the new TB

New set of headers and a new front pipe to delete the OEM cats will prove a lot more effective than the TB

Originally Posted by Dream20b

I agree. The TB is only really a restriction once you're well over 300 RWHP and this kit won't get you there except on E85 with full supporting mods.

Throttle body is out. I'll use the extra cash towards the intercooled kit.




On the topic of exhaust and being CARB legal, are the mods this guy did legal, or would they cause a CEL? I'd love to mimic this set up and get my FR-S sounding the same, plus the super charger. (Parts are listed in the video description, [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-ds7oDlM6w"]here[/ame].)

[stockysnail]

Originally Posted by Sazexa

Okay, sounds good. Like I said, I don't need it super fast, just a bit smoother and a bit more power. I'm stilling considering a clutch & flywheel simply because I'd like to be able to release the clutch faster? If that's makes sense or is how it works. Release it faster, and not damage the clutch/transmission.




Throttle body is out. I'll use the extra cash towards the intercooled kit.




On the topic of exhaust and being CARB legal, are the mods this guy did legal, or would they cause a CEL? I'd love to mimic this set up and get my FR-S sounding the same, plus the super charger. (Parts are listed in the video description,

.)

You need to keep the original headers to stay carb legal and that guy definitely isn't. Mine sounds better. Check my build thread or my YouTube channel for proof. For the clutch engaging faster I think what you should try or drive someone else's car with the clutch pedal spring removed and the slave cylinder swapped like in this post as it makes it feel much better. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77390
If you plan on dropping the clutch like you're drag racing all the time plus want it to still be driver friendly about all you can do is replace clutches more often as they won't last neatly as long.

[Sazexa]

Originally Posted by stockysnail

You need to keep the original headers to stay carb legal and that guy definitely isn't. Mine sounds better. Check my build thread or my YouTube channel for proof. For the clutch engaging faster I think what you should try or drive someone else's car with the clutch pedal spring removed and the slave cylinder swapped like in this post as it makes it feel much better. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77390
If you plan on dropping the clutch like you're drag racing all the time plus want it to still be driver friendly about all you can do is replace clutches more often as they won't last neatly as long.

That does sound pretty good. I don't want to drop or duno the clutch, I'd just like to be able to release it quicker while still have a relatively smooth shift. Sometimes I feel it takes a while to shift. Perhaps a short-throw shifter is what I'm after. It's a little hard to describe. Maybe I just need more manual driving experience, as I've only driven a total of maybe 3,500. 3,000 of that on my car. Clutch engagement is a good term, I'll have to read into that thread.

[stockysnail]

Originally Posted by Sazexa

That does sound pretty good. I don't want to drop or duno the clutch, I'd just like to be able to release it quicker while still have a relatively smooth shift. Sometimes I feel it takes a while to shift. Perhaps a short-throw shifter is what I'm after. It's a little hard to describe. Maybe I just need more manual driving experience, as I've only driven a total of maybe 3,500. 3,000 of that on my car. Clutch engagement is a good term, I'll have to read into that thread.

The TRD quick shifter makes moving the shift handle much shorter, but it also makes it harder to move. It also makes it less smooth.

[smudge]

Picking mine up tomorrow morning, but only with a base map to run the newly built engine in

[tegunulgener]

Oh no... 400miles on base map?

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