Whiteline roll center and bump steer kit concerns

[subiebui]

Hey, so I just put in the white line roll center kit and after I got done doing the alignment I went for a test drive and noticed the steering doesn't like to come back to center. When I was putting the ball joints in I did notice they were really stiff to begin with. Does anybody know if they need to break in or is this a normal condition for this set up? I'm on rce tarmac 2 coilovers lowered about an inch and some front and rear. Alignment specs weren't unusual. Thanks for any help

[Calum]

Originally Posted by subiebui

Hey, so I just put in the white line roll center kit and after I got done doing the alignment I went for a test drive and noticed the steering doesn't like to come back to center. When I was putting the ball joints in I did notice they were really stiff to begin with. Does anybody know if they need to break in or is this a normal condition for this set up? I'm on rce tarmac 2 coilovers lowered about an inch and some front and rear. Alignment specs weren't unusual. Thanks for any help

Do you have anything adjusting caster? It might have been installed wrong, reducing caster instead of increasing it, which would result in the symptoms you described.

[twag4]

Originally Posted by subiebui

Hey, so I just put in the white line roll center kit and after I got done doing the alignment I went for a test drive and noticed the steering doesn't like to come back to center. When I was putting the ball joints in I did notice they were really stiff to begin with. Does anybody know if they need to break in or is this a normal condition for this set up? I'm on rce tarmac 2 coilovers lowered about an inch and some front and rear. Alignment specs weren't unusual. Thanks for any help

You should also consider the Whiteline kit KCA434, anti dive/caster correct kit. Perrin also makes one, but it is much more expensive. It is called the positive steering response system.

[subiebui]

I have the rce street camber plates which added caster. I'm around 6.2 degrees caster if Im remembering correctly

[subiebui]

Originally Posted by Calum

Do you have anything adjusting caster? It might have been installed wrong, reducing caster instead of increasing it, which would result in the symptoms you described.

I didn't mess with the caster since my last alignment. The camber plates added a little bit . all I adjusted was toe and pulled the front camber from -3-3.5 to -2.5 on both sides

[dem00n]

My balljoints didn't even fit my car, Whiteline blamed my LCA from the factory or how it installed, even though we did it was the right balljoint tool, etc.

It sounds like your ball joints aren't settling, when a ball joint is bad, you get that feeling of the steering wheel not wanting center by its self. However, i dobut the ball joints are shot. Did you install them with a proper ball joint tool? Or did you hammer it in the Honda way? It could be an alignment though.

Let us know.

[subiebui]

Originally Posted by dem00n

My balljoints didn't even fit my car, Whiteline blamed my LCA from the factory or how it installed, even though we did it was the right balljoint tool, etc.

It sounds like your ball joints aren't settling, when a ball joint is bad, you get that feeling of the steering wheel not wanting center by its self. However, i dobut the ball joints are shot. Did you install them with a proper ball joint tool? Or did you hammer it in the Honda way? It could be an alignment though.

Let us know.

The ball joints were really stiff out of the box when I was playing with them before I installed them. I pressed them in the the proper tools on a press at the shop

[Calum]

It's not uncommon for a ball joint to be too stiff to move by hand, straight out of the box. It's hard to tell how stiff they were from text. They certainly could be the issue, but before I come to that conclusion I'd like to make sure it isn't something else.

Can you post your full alignment specs?

What kind of camber plates do you have? When were they installed? Can you post a pic of them to show their orientation?

[subiebui]

Originally Posted by Calum

It's not uncommon for a ball joint to be too stiff to move by hand, straight out of the box. It's hard to tell how stiff they were from text. They certainly could be the issue, but before I come to that conclusion I'd like to make sure it isn't something else.

Can you post your full alignment specs?

What kind of camber plates do you have? When were they installed? Can you post a pic of them to show their orientation?

The ball joints were stiff to the point i couldnt move them by hand at all. I didn't print the alignment but off the top of my head its: front camber, both -2.5, 0 toe, 6.2 degrees caster. rear toe 0, -1.9-2.0 degrees camber both sides. i've only had the race comp engineering tarmac 2 and race comp camber plates installed for about a thousand miles and didnt have any issues before doing the roll center and bump steer kit. i haven't heard any pops/clunks or noticed any binding. I drove the car for a good bit today and it seems to be getting better? but it might just be in my head.

[Calum]

Originally Posted by subiebui

The ball joints were stiff to the point i couldnt move them by hand at all. I didn't print the alignment but off the top of my head its: front camber, both -2.5, 0 toe, 6.2 degrees caster. rear toe 0, -1.9-2.0 degrees camber both sides. i've only had the race comp engineering tarmac 2 and race comp camber plates installed for about a thousand miles and didnt have any issues before doing the roll center and bump steer kit. i haven't heard any pops/clunks or noticed any binding. I drove the car for a good bit today and it seems to be getting better? but it might just be in my head.

Then yeah, I'd have to agree it's the whiteline parts.

[subiebui]

Originally Posted by Calum

Then yeah, I'd have to agree it's the whiteline parts.

Sad face. Well I'll probably end up bringing it in and checking out everything again. I've emailed white line but haven't gotten any response from them yet
Thanks for the help everyone