Ace 4-2-1 Header

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by philooo

I am curious to see more people switching from JDL UEL to the ACE header and see who much more power can be made...

Funny, @sw20kosh is one of those :p

[CSG David]

Originally Posted by raven1231

You did say virtual dyno right?

How about virtual dyno the virtual dyno?

[sw20kosh]

Originally Posted by solidONE

Did you apply all the corrections for baro pressure and ambient temps? You can make it read falsely high if you dont apply the corrections. Otherwise, virtual dyno seems to be very close to what you'd get on a dynojet if done correctly (within 1% error). Also do you have the graphs with and without smoothing? Wheel slip or a non-level surface will also produce a falsely high number (or falsely low if your chugging uphill). You can tell whether if the graph is falsely high by seeing if the graph has unusual spikes in it (along with the datalog if there are rpm spikes in a middle of a pull). If you see this in the graph you need to throw away that piece of data as it's no good.

I can get them. The tuner did the virtual dynos.

[solidONE]

Originally Posted by sw20kosh

I can get them. The tuner did the virtual dynos.

If you can get the logs that he used to convert to virtual dyno and the virtual dyno graphs I can check for the temps and wheelslip. Although I wouldn't be able to check whether if the road he used to do pulls on were flat. We'll just have to trust that he did.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by CSG David

How about virtual dyno the virtual dyno?

Needs to be calibrated against the virtual reference.

[AceHeader-MT]

Before and after of Type B production welding

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9gsmrZPVTI"]ACE Type B production welding - YouTube[/ame]

[Hawk77FT]

This just came in today from the ceramic coating business.

[GT86meMR2]

So how much more power does this header actually make more than the JDL UEL? is it worth losing the boxer rumble for?

[AceHeader-MT]

Originally Posted by GT86meMR2

So how much more power does this header actually make more than the JDL UEL? is it worth losing the boxer rumble for?

There's some good dyno graph comparisons here:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=88696

Check out Test 3

[GT86meMR2]

Originally Posted by AceHeader-MT

There's some good dyno graph comparisons here:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=88696

Check out Test 3

Your header is very impressive, this is the kind of performance difference i expect when you have to choose for EL(performance) or UEL(sound).

[AlexBinJackson]

Originally Posted by GT86meMR2

So how much more power does this header actually make more than the JDL UEL? is it worth losing the boxer rumble for?

I went from tomei uel and I was worried about losing the rumble aswell
But once you open it up you won't regret it think it sounds amazing for an el

[AceHeader-MT]

Originally Posted by GT86meMR2

Your header is very impressive, this is the kind of performance difference i expect when you have to choose for EL(performance) or UEL(sound).

Originally Posted by AlexBinJackson

I went from tomei uel and I was worried about losing the rumble aswell
But once you open it up you won't regret it think it sounds amazing for an el

Thanks Alex, the guys at Delicious are in love with your car too!

GT86me- here's a few video links to the sound from @CSGMike and @AlexBinJackson

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AZ8vq0QYHU"]JRSC, E85, and ACE header results from HG with delicious tuning - YouTube[/ame]
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e31Ketqj38"]CSG Ace 4-2-1 FRS/BRZ header Laguna Seca fly-by Sound Clip at 86CUP - YouTube[/ame]

[ort895]

stupid question, but these will fit with an auto, correct?

[AceHeader-MT]

Originally Posted by ort895

stupid question, but these will fit with an auto, correct?

Yes they will.
Automagic, Manual and supercharged