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Old 06-03-2012, 12:31 PM   #43
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Yeah seriously whats with all the hate on here. The guy is having fun, and posted a video for comparison which is cool because when I get my FR-S I want to know exactly where it stands.
Atleast one person has some sense. Thank you
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Old 06-03-2012, 12:40 PM   #44
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Thanks for uploading this video. Damn the FR-S is slow.

FR-S is a "sporty" car, but not a real sports car. When I think of sports car, I think of cars that has handling and is fast. A 370z will run laps around the FR-S any day, I am reconsidering not buying an FR-S now. I think I'll save my money for the new Porsche Cayman S, handling and fast like a real sports car should be.
I take offense to that it's a "sporty" type of car but not a sports car. It certainly has every characteristics of being a sports car handling wise while the pros have won a few races with it already in it's first few weeks of release. Just because it doesn't have the power of a 350z doesn't mean it's not a sports car. It would be akin to saying the mustang can't handle as well as the FRS so by god it means the mustang isn't a sports car either!

Dont mind me I'm just feeding the troll.
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Old 06-03-2012, 12:40 PM   #45
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I was gonna say I never saw a thread go full retard so fast, but then I read the OP a second time and realized...... because inception.
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I take offense to that it's a "sporty" type of car but not a sports car. It certainly has every characteristics of being a sports car handling wise while the pros have won a few races with it already in it's first few weeks of release. Just because it doesn't have the power of a 350z doesn't mean it's not a sports car. It would be akin to saying the mustang can't handle as well as the FRS so by god it means the mustang isn't a sports car either!

Dont mind me I'm just feeding the troll.
Yeah i'd say two class wins and a retirement during the 24 hours of Nurburgring has stamped the car as a very competent sports car. There's no need for 320hp to be a sports car-- in the same way GT200 cars aren't less of sports cars because GT300 & GT400 cars exist.
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Old 06-03-2012, 12:50 PM   #47
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"i broke in my frs about a week ago and decided to race my friends 350z with just an intake. well i was a little upset that i lost, then i found out he was in 3rd while i was in 2nd and decided its time to boost it or sell it."
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Not sure what you expected with that 1st comment, OP. It does seem to indicate that your missing the concept behind the 86. The machine is designed to excel on a road course, where skill is more important than horsepower. I've seen it hundreds of times on track. The guy in the high HP car blasts past a NA Miata on a long straight, only to have to offer a point by when the superior driver in the car costing 1/15th as much cash is back on his ass in two turns. It just never gets old. Nothing wrong with high HP cars if you want to foot the bill, but the 86 is not the correct tool for drag racing. Decades ago, I was in love with my S30 series 280Zs. I test drove a 370Z recently. It was quick, but heavy and numb feeling. Those cars initially had heat issues on track, going into limp mode. It boils down to choosing the right tool for the job, at a price your willing to pay.
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Not sure what you expected with that 1st comment, OP. It does seem to indicate that your missing the concept behind the 86. The machine is designed to excel on a road course, where skill is more important than horsepower. I've seen it hundreds of times on track. The guy in the high HP car blasts past a NA Miata on a long straight, only to have to offer a point by when the superior driver in the car costing 1/15th as much cash is back on his ass in two turns. It just never gets old. Nothing wrong with high HP cars if you want to foot the bill, but the 86 is not the correct tool for drag racing. Decades ago, I was in love with my S30 series 280Zs. I test drove a 370Z recently. It was quick, but heavy and numb feeling. Those cars initially had heat issues on track, going into limp mode. It boils down to choosing the right tool for the job, at a price your willing to pay.
The people who are convinced that more power is the answer are the same who tailgate you on the road, then blow past you, and end up sitting next to you at a red light a quarter-mile ahead.
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Hmh I don't remember saying that I couldn't figure out why I couldn't beat him I believe I said I didnt thin he would have pulled as much thus never stating I thought I would beat him or couldnt fathom how he could have beat me.
I think it was your comment about selling the car.. It came across, to me at least, like you were disappointed and expected the race to be close. Bottomline, this car was not designed for straight line acceleration, and there are very few RWD sports coupes that it could beat in a drag race. But yeah, if you were just having fun and joking around with the comments, next time I recommend adding a smiley face or something so people don't take you literally when you say you might need to sell the car because it can't hang with a 350Z.
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Thanks for uploading this video. Damn the FR-S is slow.

FR-S is a "sporty" car, but not a real sports car. When I think of sports car, I think of cars that has handling and is fast. A 370z will run laps around the FR-S any day, I am reconsidering not buying an FR-S now. I think I'll save my money for the new Porsche Cayman S, handling and fast like a real sports car should be.
Awesome...do it. Why would you consider this car if you can afford a Cayman S...
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Old 06-03-2012, 01:03 PM   #51
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The people who are convinced that more power is the answer are the same who tailgate you on the road, then blow past you, and end up sitting next to you at a red light a quarter-mile ahead.
+1. The required driving skills to hold a steering wheel straight and mash the gas petal is utterly mind blowing.
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For the price of a Cayman S you could probably get an FR-S and a Mustang Boss.. Best of both worlds.
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+1. The required driving skills to hold a steering wheel straight and mash the gas petal is utterly mind blowing.
I don't necessarily think that it takes no skill-- hitting the perfect shift points for your particular powerband in mind is not something for a novice. But i think a drag race in general is useless.

I believe someone on this forum has a quote in their signature that states, "More power makes you faster on the straights, less weight makes you faster everywhere." I think that is a very important lesson for people to learn.
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If you look up a few reviews and comparison videos even with experienced drivers you'll see the 1/4m times vary alot, by several seconds. Even the 0-60 times vary by a second. So, drag racing isn't as straight forward as you'd think.

Still, thinking you can beat a 350z in a straight line is just overly optimistic.
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Yeah i'd say two class wins and a retirement during the 24 hours of Nurburgring has stamped the car as a very competent sports car. There's no need for 320hp to be a sports car-- in the same way GT200 cars aren't less of sports cars because GT300 & GT400 cars exist.
Nope, sorry... since the Bugatti Veyron came out, everything else has been reclassified. That Ferrari F40? It's now a pickup truck. Porsche 911 GT3? Family sedan. And don't even think about picking up a Lamborghini Aventador unless you want the shame of being caught in a girly sub-compact. Simple logic (and I do emphasize the word, "simple", here) dictates that only the fastest vehicle is a sports car. They're like Highlander that way (the immortals, not the SUV. Which I guess is a sports car on really bad dirt roads?)

Seriously, some days, I can only imagine how many MX-5 owners are lurking our forum and laughing their asses off.
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Nothing wrong with drag racing a faster car then you, but please don't street race. Keep it on the track for everyone's safety, including yours
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