Ace 4-2-1 Header

[CounterSpace Garage]

Originally Posted by Hyper4mance2k

T-minus 6 months until PLM knock off...

Support artists and masters of the art and ye shall receive art and appreciation.

[Carlysh]

Originally Posted by CounterSpace Garage

Better than 91 octane but not as good as E85.

Sorry no e85 close by the closest is 1 hour away but will see what happens

[CounterSpace Garage]

Originally Posted by Carlysh

Sorry no e85 close by the closest is 1 hour away but will see what happens

We have data to show that 100 octane on a completely stock factory OEM BRZ/FRS yielded 6hp better than 91 octane doing back to back baselines. Please contact us if you have any other questions regarding the ACE headers.

[MaximeT]

Originally Posted by CounterSpace Garage

We have data to show that 100 octane on a completely stock factory OEM BRZ/FRS yielded 6hp better than 91 octane doing back to back baselines. Please contact us if you have any other questions regarding the ACE headers.

You mean no tune ?

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by MaximeT

You mean no tune ?

No further tuning.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by CounterSpace Garage

Better than 91 octane but not as good as E85.

Captain obvious

[Superstar]

Originally Posted by AceHeader-MT

350= max torque (202.4NM), lowest peak HP (175.1HP)
250= torque (approx 200NM), HP (approx 178)
150= lowest torque (approx 195NM), HP (approx 182)

These numbers are approximated off percentages of the 350 when we did a stock dyno run with OEM frontpipe

The numbers are for N/A. What about for supercharged applications?

[steve99]

Originally Posted by CounterSpace Garage

We have data to show that 100 octane on a completely stock factory OEM BRZ/FRS yielded 6hp better than 91 octane doing back to back baselines. Please contact us if you have any other questions regarding the ACE headers.

Yes you will get around that gain with a completly stock car switching from 91 or other low octane fuels to a fuel with at least the octane rating the stock tune was designed for.

Reason is the stock tune needs at least 93 or equlivant octane to run full timing and have the IAM at 1. On lower octane fuels the ecu detects knock and reduces timing to limit knock resulting in an IAM arround 0.6 on 91 fuel in untujed cars

below is a log of a south africain stock 86 on their rubbish 95 ron fuel which is worse than usa 91.

IAM is 0.2 and its still pulling 3 degrees timing when you get on throttle total timing reduction probably 5 or 6 degrees,

Put good fuel in your car even stock and it will perform better

http://datazap.me/u/steve99/south-af...ata=2-20-27-28

[lmabee]

Received 2nd ACE 4:2:1 header....1st arrived after initial offering with tight 02 sensor fitting clearance....David at CSG (Counter Space Garage) was able to get 2nd header sent out....told that subequent headers will not have this problem....DIY only trick is lifting engine to get overpipe clearance....the fitting are all spot on
Really a piece of art....welds are unbelieveable.
No dyno data.
again shout out to David at CSG (ACE Headers)
Really pleased with service from David CSG
somehow unable to loade images will forward to see if can be inserted
Lee Mabee

[sw20kosh]

Dynapack Dyno:
(no stock baseline stock 86 on this dyno yet, but the tuners tuned JDL UEL made 164 whp)
ACE 169 whp 91
ACE 187 whp E85

Virtual Dyno:
155-160 whp bone stock right before dyno tuning
217-223 whp after tuning session.

[solidONE]

Originally Posted by sw20kosh

Dynapack Dyno:
(no stock baseline stock 86 on this dyno yet, but the tuners tuned JDL UEL made 164 whp)
169 whp 91
187 whp E85

Virtual Dyno:
155-160 whp bone stock right before dyno tuning
217-223 whp after tuning session.

Dayum! That's some high quality Taiwanese made shit, right there!

What are all the mods you did aside from the headers to get to 220WHP?

[CSG David]

Originally Posted by lmabee

Received 2nd ACE 4:2:1 header....1st arrived after initial offering with tight 02 sensor fitting clearance....David at CSG (Counter Space Garage) was able to get 2nd header sent out....told that subequent headers will not have this problem....DIY only trick is lifting engine to get overpipe clearance....the fitting are all spot on
Really a piece of art....welds are unbelieveable.
No dyno data.
again shout out to David at CSG (ACE Headers)
Really pleased with service from David CSG
somehow unable to loade images will forward to see if can be inserted
Lee Mabee

Good luck at the Nats. Go get 'em!!

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by solidONE

Dayum! That's some high quality Taiwanese made shit, right there!

What are all the mods you did aside from the headers to get to 220WHP?

Flex Fuel, Ecutek Tune, Ace front pipe.

Zero other drivetrain mods.

[Traktor]

I wonder if the unique ACE header design would lend itself to making more power above 7000 rpm with some aggressive cams. All the combinations of tunes and bolt ons seem to max out at around 200 whp at 7000 rpm or thereabouts. Even the new piper cams in another thread increased power, but it still came in at 7000rpm with a traditional EL header design. 100 whp/liter @ 7000 rpm peak is very efficient, just need to move that powerband!

You just feel that there is a NA secret waiting to be unlocked with these cars!


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