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Old 08-28-2015, 07:58 AM   #2857
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That's funny. ID and DW both run Bosch cores.

A 1/4 mile video would demonstrate the grip difference (and driver skill) far more than the power difference.
Exactly. 60ft times, shifting (missed shifts), etc.

Not to mention I don't understand all the people who drag race these cars.

For the cost of the Jackson Racing supercharger, high boost pulley and upgrades.........you could buy a used 600cc sportbike, hammer it to the ground, -1/+2 sprocket change and run high 10s all day long.
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Old 08-28-2015, 07:59 AM   #2858
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That's funny. ID and DW both run Bosch cores.


I was going to say that. Both injectors are based on the same ev14 bosch unit. It just how the injectors are "broken in", matched, and tooled that the various companies differ. There is a lot of B.S. in injector sales.


I'd like to see same day, same car, same driver track results with oil/coolant temps logged.
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Old 08-28-2015, 09:07 AM   #2859
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Those are two videos. So yeah... If the 1/4 mile track is the second video, then I'm sure you didn't mean street racing for the first.



ID makes good injectors, no doubt about that. I wouldn't say that DW are bad injectors, though. The quality difference between them is IMO subjective. Whatever your preference, flow is not an indicator of quality - it's just a flow amount, and 1000cc is overkill. With Grams 550cc's and a C38 pushing 15psi, I was only at 70%.



Do you know the setups people will be upgrading from? The price changes depending on that. It could be as high as you're saying for some people, sure. It could be as low as $250 too, though. How? If you already had a custom tune to begin with. $150 for the pulley, $100 for an adjustment. You quoted the high, but its only fair to quote the low. That being said, I think the cost is in keeping with upgrading other kits. Cheaper even, in some instances.
I see you are one of those guys who NEVER go 1 mph above the posted speed limit lol. Now I did say 2 cars racing but never mentioned on the street. You are the only one here bringing up street racing here. Moving along...

Well you can spend $5k on a supercharger and only $250 on fueling. Good luck when you lean out trying to run higher boost. Overkill on a fuel system is the way to go, you always want more fuel then you will ever need.

Yes the both use Bosch but even a quick google search of DW vs ID injectors will have almost everyone going the ID's. Must be a reason for that...?

Ok so for the 1/4 you can put slicks on both cars along with the same driver. Since there are variables you could use an abandoned airport, both cars in 3rd and go until the top of 3rd. No shifting involved and see how much the other pulls in front. If the smaller pulley is putting a good distance on the bigger pulley ok cool its worth but if its a few inches to 1 foot ahead IMO its not worth it. You can't see that by looking at a dyno sheet.

You guys are selling a product but why not show video of it?
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Old 08-28-2015, 09:16 AM   #2860
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I see you are one of those guys who NEVER go 1 mph above the posted speed limit lol. Now I did say 2 cars racing but never mentioned on the street. You are the only one here bringing up street racing here. Moving along...

Well you can spend $5k on a supercharger and only $250 on fueling. Good luck when you lean out trying to run higher boost. Overkill on a fuel system is the way to go, you always want more fuel then you will ever need.

Yes the both use Bosch but even a quick google search of DW vs ID injectors will have almost everyone going the ID's. Must be a reason for that...?

Ok so for the 1/4 you can put slicks on both cars along with the same driver. Since there are variables you could use an abandoned airport, both cars in 3rd and go until the top of 3rd. No shifting involved and see how much the other pulls in front. If the smaller pulley is putting a good distance on the bigger pulley ok cool its worth but if its a few inches to 1 foot ahead IMO its not worth it. You can't see that by looking at a dyno sheet.

You guys are selling a product but why not show video of it?
They posted a 370hp dyno vs 285hp CARB tune. That's a world of difference.

Could someone ask Alonso and Hamilton to do a qualifying session with the 2 setups so we can finally know if there's a difference between the two pulleys ?
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Thats what I would like to see. A dyno means nothing as its only a tuning program.
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Old 08-28-2015, 10:53 AM   #2862
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Thats what I would like to see. A dyno means nothing as its only a tuning program.
Sorry, I was absolutely not serious

Would like to see it in a perfect world anyway.
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Old 08-28-2015, 11:03 AM   #2863
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Well you fooled me lol.

It still wouldn't be difficult to set up a race like that though. Its the same thing how most people buy a sports car. You're not going to buy it off of a dyno sheet comparison only. You're going to drive it and see it in action.
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Old 08-28-2015, 12:09 PM   #2864
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Ok so for the 1/4 you can put slicks on both cars along with the same driver. Since there are variables you could use an abandoned airport, both cars in 3rd and go until the top of 3rd. No shifting involved and see how much the other pulls in front. If the smaller pulley is putting a good distance on the bigger pulley ok cool its worth but if its a few inches to 1 foot ahead IMO its not worth it. You can't see that by looking at a dyno sheet.

You guys are selling a product but why not show video of it?
That's a great way to bog and break an axle. Also, 3rd tops out at 84.


I'm not much of a bench racer, but I have a feeling 280 (JRSC CARB) on that dyno is faster than 180 (stock), and 370 (HB + supporting mods) is faster than 280 (CARB).

Just saying.

370 > 280 > 180
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That's a great way to bog and break an axle. Also, 3rd tops out at 84.


I'm not much of a bench racer, but I have a feeling 280 (JRSC CARB) on that dyno is faster than 180 (stock), and 370 (HB + supporting mods) is faster than 280 (CARB).

Just saying.

370 > 280 > 180

I don't believe you without a video
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Old 08-28-2015, 12:55 PM   #2866
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You're adding a supercharger to a non FI engine, but you're worried about breaking an axel?

Im sure it is faster but I just want to see by how much. Is the $1k+ upgrade really worth it? Why can't you post up a comparison video?
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Old 08-28-2015, 01:32 PM   #2867
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You're adding a supercharger to a non FI engine, but you're worried about breaking an axel?

Im sure it is faster but I just want to see by how much. Is the $1k+ upgrade really worth it? Why can't you post up a comparison video?
In due time this thing just came out. You can also buy it yourself and do all the testing you want if you cant wait.
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You're adding a supercharger to a non FI engine, but you're worried about breaking an axel?

Im sure it is faster but I just want to see by how much. Is the $1k+ upgrade really worth it? Why can't you post up a comparison video?
No. It's not worth it at all. Go spend the same money on a turbo kit and put down 450 whp. This kit isn't about making the car straight line fast. It's about giving it that extra push so it'll be able to get out of it's own shadow on corner exit while maintaining the factory power linearity minus the torque dip.
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In due time this thing just came out. You can also buy it yourself and do all the testing you want if you cant wait.
With a name as awesome as Yoda, I'm surprised you aren't speaking like him all the time.

"Just came out, this thing did. If waiting is impossible, buy and test yourself, you can."

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The company said they tested it for over a year. I'm sure they could put together a quick video
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