Edelbrock E-Force Supercharger

[dmyers]

Originally Posted by BigFatFlip

Judging from the image you quoted, the intake housing appears to be rapid prototyped (you can see the "grain" showing the printing direction if you look closely). I would guess this was more for fitting purposes, or as bertio mentioned, an individual test unit.

Rapid prototype for sure. if you look a few of the pictures it actually looks like it goes straight in.

http://www.edelblog.com/wp-content/u...07/fender1.jpg

[Budo]

Originally Posted by 350matt

interesting, looks like the edelbrock IC core is a lot smaller than the cosworht units
we'll see I spose wher it all sits in terms of IAT and bhp

Agreed. At first glance of the pictures I'm disappointed, but everything else looks "On Point" and modern colloquialism puts it. It seems comparing Cosworth, Harrop and Edelbrock, one has quad cooling, the next 2 W2A units and Edelbrock the one unit. I hoped that the single unit was about the same total size as the Harrop's two units, but it doesn't appear so. Ah well, as above, we will see what comes out in the wash. But, I do so want something with enough headroom to be able to justify built engine in several years.


Cheers,

Budo

[wparsons]

Originally Posted by dmyers

I noticed on their "test" BRZ they ended up putting a Borla cat-back on it after the testing was finished. I wonder if they would share that tune with SC purchasers? I think the Borla sounds pretty good and if I could get the tune it would make this SC even a better deal!

Generally a cat-back won't require re-tuning at all

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by 350matt

interesting, looks like the edelbrock IC core is a lot smaller than the cosworht units
we'll see I spose wher it all sits in terms of IAT and bhp

The Edelbrock core is designed for minimum airflow restriction. You have to balance airflow with temperature drop. On the other hand, the Edelbrock heat exchanger is far, FAR larger than the Cosworth unit. It is nearly the size of the OEM radiator!

I have no doubt the Edelbrock will have a far more sustainable output.

[CSG Mike]

Oh, and....

[tracerit]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Oh, and....

any idea on what pricing will look like for a CARB version?

[BigFatFlip]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Oh, and....

Mike, you're such a tease

[Calum]

Originally Posted by dmyers

Rapid prototype for sure. if you look a few of the pictures it actually looks like it goes straight in.

http://www.edelblog.com/wp-content/u...07/fender1.jpg

It only doesn't go straight in on the stick intake manifold.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by BigFatFlip

Mike, you're such a tease

Sorry, only so much I can do until its officially released....

[BigFatFlip]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Sorry, only so much I can do until its officially released....

Do you guys plan on testing and carrying this product too, similar to the JRSC?

[dmyers]

Originally Posted by Calum

It only doesn't go straight in on the stick intake manifold.

Right, that's a whole new intake.

You can see the intake and tube in this picture a lot better

http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive/...ers/fa20.shtml

Looks like the same air "input" location (without the stock snorkel) to a larger filter? Which is then straight into the intake

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by BigFatFlip

Do you guys plan on testing and carrying this product too, similar to the JRSC?

To a lesser degree yes.

[j123ic]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

The Edelbrock core is designed for minimum airflow restriction. You have to balance airflow with temperature drop. On the other hand, the Edelbrock heat exchanger is far, FAR larger than the Cosworth unit. It is nearly the size of the OEM radiator!

I have no doubt the Edelbrock will have a far more sustainable output.

You're absolutely right Mike. I just wanted to add that the E-Force kit utilizes .75" id intercooler hoses, whereas others are using .625" or smaller. Additionally, the waterpump flows double the amount at 8gpm v.s the older Bosch unit at 4gpm.

Based on images I have seen online, both Harrop and Cosworth are using Bosch pumps.

Lastly, fin density on both the charge-air-cooler and front heat-exchanger is key. It may be too early to find this info, but Edelbrock usually posts the performance specs of each in BTU's/hr. Basically, you can't tell how something will perform based on size alone.

[350matt]

Originally Posted by j123ic

You're absolutely right Mike. I just wanted to add that the E-Force kit utilizes .75" id intercooler hoses, whereas others are using .625" or smaller. Additionally, the waterpump flows double the amount at 8gpm v.s the older Bosch unit at 4gpm.

Based on images I have seen online, both Harrop and Cosworth are using Bosch pumps.

Lastly, fin density on both the charge-air-cooler and front heat-exchanger is key. It may be too early to find this info, but Edelbrock usually posts the performance specs of each in BTU's/hr. Basically, you can't tell how something will perform based on size alone.

agree about the BTU statement, I'd be surprised if they release that information thou

I remember the cosworth statement was the coolers were good for about 35Kw of heat rejection which they equated to about 400Bhp

also the cosworth hoses are 0.75" not 0.625"

and have you got any details about this 8 GPM pump? I'm always on the lookout for better pumps..