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thill · 08-07-2015, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by bedabi

Paul revealed on their podcast that he previously worked for Ford. He has a formal background in car design. This explained a lot in terms of how he's so into interior comfort, design and feel. It's a different perspective from a buyer like me willing to give up what I consider unnecessary luxury for car feel because I can't afford a Cayman for both! LOL!

Right and he has a love for German cars too, so he is not really just a Ford guy. Look, I get the complaint about lack of power from the FT86. It's a legitimate complaint and people should not get defensive. It is what it is. For the money there are a lot of cars out there that offer more power. But if your desire is to have a car that handles very well and offers excellent driver dynamics the FT86 has to be right up there on you list of sub $28K cars.

strat61caster · 08-07-2015, 12:51 PM

Sounds like he browses the forum if he did the 12V plug in the sound tube trick...

thill · 08-07-2015, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster

Sounds like he browses the forum if he did the 12V plug in the sound tube trick...

I had never heard of that. Pretty cool.

DAEMANO · 08-07-2015, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster

Sounds like he browses the forum if he did the 12V plug in the sound tube trick...

I really hope so. This forum is a good place to help discern which mods matter and which do not. As ED continues the long term test and mods they spoke of, their FR-S should really begin to shine and for very little extra money.

TylerLieberman · 08-11-2015, 08:34 AM

I think Paul is just honest, and people take it too personally. He's always commented on how much he enjoys the FRS, he just also states that there are a lot of other cars that offer a lot within the same price range.

And it's true. The 25-30k segment is quite competitive and there are a lot of good options, some of which offer quite a bit more (on paper) than the FRS. The FRS appeals to buyers in different ways, making it more of a niche car. Some of the other cars however (Focus ST, GTI MS3, WRX etc) may appeal more to the average buyer, especially the hatchbacks. I can't even begin to tell you all the different types of people I've seen driving an ST, GTI, or MS3. Every day too.

I don't think Paul is saying the FRS is a bad car. I think he's just being realistic and pointing out other cars that can be bought in the new or, in this case, used market for around he same amount of money.

daiheadjai · 08-14-2015, 10:59 AM

Can't think of a pair of guys I'd rather listen to than these 2... I think they both "get it" but just have different priorities and preferences. The guy from Engineering Explained is pretty good too! I guess I enjoy the rational discussion.

08-11-2015, 08:34 AM	#131
TylerLieberman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: '24 GR86 Location: Arizona Posts: 3,686 Thanks: 658 Thanked 3,363 Times in 1,584 Posts Mentioned: 16 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I think Paul is just honest, and people take it too personally. He's always commented on how much he enjoys the FRS, he just also states that there are a lot of other cars that offer a lot within the same price range. And it's true. The 25-30k segment is quite competitive and there are a lot of good options, some of which offer quite a bit more (on paper) than the FRS. The FRS appeals to buyers in different ways, making it more of a niche car. Some of the other cars however (Focus ST, GTI MS3, WRX etc) may appeal more to the average buyer, especially the hatchbacks. I can't even begin to tell you all the different types of people I've seen driving an ST, GTI, or MS3. Every day too. I don't think Paul is saying the FRS is a bad car. I think he's just being realistic and pointing out other cars that can be bought in the new or, in this case, used market for around he same amount of money. __________________ Old 2013 FRS Build Thread (SOLD) Hakone 86 GR Build Thread (SOLD)

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08-14-2015, 10:59 AM	#132
daiheadjai Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: 2003 S2000, 2008 Fit Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Posts: 1,990 Thanks: 2,584 Thanked 1,154 Times in 688 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Can't think of a pair of guys I'd rather listen to than these 2... I think they both "get it" but just have different priorities and preferences. The guy from Engineering Explained is pretty good too! I guess I enjoy the rational discussion.

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