Take it to the track

[JS + BRZ]

Yep.... LOL

[stugray]

The way I see it:
If you consider yourself "a driver", but you have never had your car on a track, then STFU.

I used to think I was a hot-shit driver because I could corner fast, heel toe, speed without getting caught, and drift on the street.
Then ONE TIME out on a track and you realize that you just did more real driving in 20 minutes than ALL of that BS that you called driving while on the street combined (in 30 years of driving).
So acting like a jackass on the street proves absolutely nothing except who is willing to take the greater risk.
If that's all you are trying to prove, then take up base jumping because WHEN you screw up, it will only be your own life you take.

I feel the same way about people who have only ever driven the car on the street, but feel the need to do all kinds of upgrades to the suspension, coils, sway bars, lighter wheels etc. - BIG waste of $$
Might as well just buy some more copies of F&F1-7 for all the good it will do you making you "faster".

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by stugray

So acting like a jackass on the street proves absolutely nothing except who is willing to take the greater risk.

I feel the same way about people who have only ever driven the car on the street, but feel the need to do all kinds of upgrades to the suspension, coils, sway bars, lighter wheels etc. - BIG waste of $$

+1 billion to these two things

But I don't hate hard parkers because their deep pockets can help the rest of us get quality goods (especially when it comes to Japanese wheel manufacturers)... I just don't take them seriously other than "ooh shiny"

[mav1178]

I don't care for street racing.

Why? Street racing is just glorified drag races.

My previous 4-cylinder Camry had more straight-line speed. I should buy the car back and make a sleeper out of that.

-alex

[stugray]

Originally Posted by mav1178

I don't care for street racing.

Why? Street racing is just glorified drag races.

My previous 4-cylinder Camry had more straight-line speed. I should buy the car back and make a sleeper out of that.

-alex

I still have my 6-cyl Solara and it is definitely faster (stock) than the BRZ.
There is a reason they used the Solara with a TRD SC for the pace car in the Denver Grand Prix :-)

[BRZBot]

Originally Posted by mav1178

I don't care for street racing.

Why? Street racing is just glorified drag races.

My previous 4-cylinder Camry had more straight-line speed. I should buy the car back and make a sleeper out of that.

-alex

[Captain Snooze]

Originally Posted by stugray

I used to think I was a hot-shit driver because I could corner fast, heel toe, speed without getting caught, and drift on the street.
Then ONE TIME out on a track and you realize that you just did more real driving in 20 minutes than ALL of that BS that you called driving while on the street combined (in 30 years of driving).

That's weird. I don't remember posting that under a different name.

[Sammakko]

Originally Posted by campy

I live in New Jersey, where I'm within 1 hour of 3 racetracks (Raceway Park, Wall, and NJMP) and 2 autox locations, so it's easy for someone like me to go to a racetrack. But what about people who live in areas where there is absolutely nothing? I'm not trying to condone street racing, and I personally have never done it, but I'm sure a sizable proportion of street racers would happily take it to the track if they could.

everyone is a few hours from autocross...

[MR2 MK1 to FRS Newbie]

Originally Posted by stugray

The way I see it:
If you consider yourself "a driver", but you have never had your car on a track, then STFU.

I used to think I was a hot-shit driver because I could corner fast, heel toe, speed without getting caught, and drift on the street.
Then ONE TIME out on a track and you realize that you just did more real driving in 20 minutes than ALL of that BS that you called driving while on the street combined (in 30 years of driving).
So acting like a jackass on the street proves absolutely nothing except who is willing to take the greater risk.
If that's all you are trying to prove, then take up base jumping because WHEN you screw up, it will only be your own life you take.

I feel the same way about people who have only ever driven the car on the street, but feel the need to do all kinds of upgrades to the suspension, coils, sway bars, lighter wheels etc. - BIG waste of $$
Might as well just buy some more copies of F&F1-7 for all the good it will do you making you "faster".

I fully agree. After 12+ yrs. of HPDE instruction, I would suggest they invest their $ in the driver rather than the car. Most of today's cars have more ability to perform than the drivers ever handle. Take an Auto x, HPDE, after a Basic Skills/ Car Control Clinic and enjoy! Anyone can go fast...it takes skill, precision and smoothness to do so on a road course.

[Scenic Driver]

Originally Posted by jaycee842

Well I would go to Willow but I have no friends to go with.

Why do you need people to go with you? If nobody else wants to go, go yourself (I do), why deny yourself the experience because of other people if it's something you want to do?

[8R6]

Originally Posted by jaycee842

Well I would go to Willow but I have no friends to go with. They are always street racing. They don't like cruising down canyons either. I think I need new friends.


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you definitely need new friends. lol

[hpde_addict]

Originally Posted by Shark_Bait88

I believe we're saying the same thing here. haha

You are suggesting that they will stop street racing once they are exposed to motorsports. I am saying that they won't.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by TylerLieberman

I wanna get in on this. I'm moving back to SoCal next month and plan on going to WSIR every few months for some track time.

86CUP.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1444...48992/?fref=nf

[JS + BRZ]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

86CUP.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1444...48992/?fref=nf

I just added him to 86CUP group.