Motor Trend: 2016 Miata vs 2015 BRZ - Page 29 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

DAEMANO · 07-10-2015, 05:21 PM

Rampage · 07-10-2015, 06:13 PM

I have seen both the MX-5 Cup car and a 2016 MX-5 Club version in person. IMO they look better in person than in photos but I like the styling of the car in both.

I seem to remember some people on this very forum saying the FR-S and BRZ had fishy looking faces too when the production versions were shown.

JS + BRZ · 07-10-2015, 06:22 PM

I've seen the regular 2016 Miata in person up in Angeles Crest Highway last month. It looked like a Lotus in person moving. It was sweet.

DAEMANO · 07-10-2015, 06:28 PM

Saw one last week with the top down in gray near South Coast Plaza. I totally agree with @strat61caster the proportions are really off. He's right about opening up the headlights, instead of trying to force them to look more aggressively pinched. Also, the body lines of the Miata seem to fall off in a graceless disjointed way. The front fascia is plain awful. The rear taillight treatment pinches inwards horribly and makes the car looks cheap sitting next to other cars (not even the bigger wheels/tires, lower stance, and BBK from the Club version saves this). I think Fiat will do a better job with the 124 (render from spy shots below).

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The more I see pictures the more I wish they had not tried to make 'aggressive' headlights. If they had just made them a bit bigger and rounder and doe-eyed... Like they wanted to and then last minute nope, just look at the downturn of the hood as it approaches either side, that all should have been filled up with headlight.

tahdizzle · 07-10-2015, 07:08 PM

If* the rumor mil is true, and the next gen 86s will use the ND chassis, I am glad I have a 1st gen twin.

fatoni · 07-10-2015, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by tahdizzle

If* the rumor mil is true, and the next gen 86s will use the ND chassis, I am glad I have a 1st gen twin.

i dont know why. the nd is probably better in a lot of ways simply due to age and priorities. i cant see the car doing well with a boxer motor and double wishbones all taking up space however

Rampage · 07-10-2015, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by tahdizzle

If* the rumor mil is true, and the next gen 86s will use the ND chassis, I am glad I have a 1st gen twin.

That rumor was started by motoring.com.aus . Need I say more? A week later they reported that Mazda had emphatically denied the rumor. My theory is they made both stories up.

Grishbok · 07-11-2015, 09:48 AM

I like the miatas, but I just can't get over the "Donald Trump lips" the miata has for a front grille. Every other aspect of it is great but the front looks like its got this stupid drug induced squished lips kind of thing going on, compounded by the squinty eye headlights. For that reason alone, I will never own one. I may on occasion... borrow my buddies.

Skurj · 07-11-2015, 10:05 AM

Disappointed in Mazda's pricing... I recently sold my 99 Miata great car, but not to share the driveway with my BRZ. I'd consider a new Miata if it came in under 30k with a decent suspension package and LSD.. But for 40k... (Canada here) It better come with RHT, and a rollbar on top of the LSD and suspension..

funwheeldrive · 07-12-2015, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Skurj

Disappointed in Mazda's pricing... I recently sold my 99 Miata great car, but not to share the driveway with my BRZ. I'd consider a new Miata if it came in under 30k with a decent suspension package and LSD.. But for 40k... (Canada here) It better come with RHT, and a rollbar on top of the LSD and suspension..

I was thinking the same thing. Personally, the fixed hardtop and extra seats add a lot of value to me. I couldn't imagine spending +30k on a club miata considering its performance:practicaility ratio.I know the 86 isn't an ideal family hauler, but it can handle a lot of daily driver duties. The miata is more of a weekend toy. If I could get a full refund on my car, I would still pick the 86 over the ND. Obviously not everyone cares about cargo space and a fixed roof.

swarb · 07-12-2015, 03:39 AM

Looks good lowered with wheels. But I guess on anything it does. Also take note that low angles make any car look good. I actually like the white one.

SUB-FT86 · 07-12-2015, 09:07 AM

I'm so happy that the car is finally good looking to me. I was never a fan of the looks of the NA,NB,and NC. This one finally has sharper curves vs the softer curves of prior generations.

tahdizzle · 07-13-2015, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by fatoni

i dont know why. the nd is probably better in a lot of ways simply due to age and priorities. i cant see the car doing well with a boxer motor and double wishbones all taking up space however

Because I prefer the longer wheel-base of my BRZ.

krayzie · 07-13-2015, 11:07 AM

Man I'm so glad Toyota went with the Subaru Boxer Engine, that ND Miata hood line and belt line are terribly high.

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Grishbok Volunteer Fire and Rescue Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: Ambulance... sideways. Location: No. VA Posts: 546 Thanks: 97 Thanked 350 Times in 166 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s)	I like the miatas, but I just can't get over the "Donald Trump lips" the miata has for a front grille. Every other aspect of it is great but the front looks like its got this stupid drug induced squished lips kind of thing going on, compounded by the squinty eye headlights. For that reason alone, I will never own one. I may on occasion... borrow my buddies. __________________ It's more fun to drive a slow car fast, than a fast car slow.

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Skurj Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Drives: SOLD... Location: GTA Ontario Posts: 955 Thanks: 56 Thanked 192 Times in 155 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s)	Disappointed in Mazda's pricing... I recently sold my 99 Miata great car, but not to share the driveway with my BRZ. I'd consider a new Miata if it came in under 30k with a decent suspension package and LSD.. But for 40k... (Canada here) It better come with RHT, and a rollbar on top of the LSD and suspension.. __________________ WRB MT BRZ Sport Tech Delivered March 21 2013 Its mine now!! Paid for Mar 2018 and its gone... Sept '18 tho I am sure I will miss it Replaced with 18 50th edition ND

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JS + BRZ Banned Join Date: Dec 2013 Drives: 2010 MS3 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,820 Thanks: 1,180 Thanked 1,161 Times in 597 Posts Mentioned: 18 Post(s)	I've seen the regular 2016 Miata in person up in Angeles Crest Highway last month. It looked like a Lotus in person moving. It was sweet.

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swarb Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Drives: BRZ Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,052 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,451 Times in 1,271 Posts Mentioned: 79 Post(s)	Looks good lowered with wheels. But I guess on anything it does. Also take note that low angles make any car look good. I actually like the white one.

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