Source of petroleum? Dinosaurs? - NOT!

[stugray]

Originally Posted by HunterGreene

In all seriousness, the Universe is a big, complex place. There are stranger things out there, even on our own planet, that you wouldn't think exist that do, such as a natural nuclear reactor in Africa (long since dormant). All the ethane and methane need to react are pressure and time, they can easily react in the presence of an energy source, whether that be tidal, gravity, etc.

This is precisely where most peoples understanding of the universe falls down.
The universe is SO VAST that literally everything that can be imagined has or will occur at some point. That is the nature of infinity.

One of the best ways to illustrate the concept is with the "tornado in a junkyard" analogy.

What is the chance that a tornado hits a random automotive junkyard and the result is fully assembled 67 Camaro SS from just the random junk laying around.
MOST people would argue that is absurd, and could "NEVER happen".
Now what if you had 1 million tornados and 1 million junkyards?
What are your chances now? Still damn close to zero!

NOW WHAT if you had an infinite number of tornados and an infinite number of junkyards?
What is the chance that you get even ONE 67 camaro SS? The chance is now 100%.

So what is the chance that some ethane & methane molecules combine into a more complex molecule? Not very high if you have a small number of molecules.
Now what if you have effectively an infinite supply of ethane & methane and some very high energy particles to bathe the experiment in?
Now the chance that more complex molecules get created has jumped to near certainty.

Same concept applies to biogenesis.
What is the chance that the universe could assume all of the proper conditions such that life will occur? Well if it is life asking the question, then the chance is 100% (a.k.a. The Anthropic Principle).

[Special_K]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

Edit: But seriously though, can @Special_K link the 350 page cabin filter thread? I'd like to try a different one at my next interval because you know science.

Damn man, now I wish I hadn't lied about that thread existing. Because I would probably read/lurk the shit out of a 350pg. cabin filter thread.

[OnkelC]

There's nothing like a K&N for pure performance cabin filtering.

[ScoobsMcGee]

Originally Posted by stugray

This is precisely where most peoples understanding of the universe falls down.
The universe is SO VAST that literally everything that can be imagined has or will occur at some point. That is the nature of infinity.

One of the best ways to illustrate the concept is with the "tornado in a junkyard" analogy.

What is the chance that a tornado hits a random automotive junkyard and the result is fully assembled 67 Camaro SS from just the random junk laying around.
MOST people would argue that is absurd, and could "NEVER happen".
Now what if you had 1 million tornados and 1 million junkyards?
What are your chances now? Still damn close to zero!

NOW WHAT if you had an infinite number of tornados and an infinite number of junkyards?
What is the chance that you get even ONE 67 camaro SS? The chance is now 100%.

So what is the chance that some ethane & methane molecules combine into a more complex molecule? Not very high if you have a small number of molecules.
Now what if you have effectively an infinite supply of ethane & methane and some very high energy particles to bathe the experiment in?
Now the chance that more complex molecules get created has jumped to near certainty.

Same concept applies to biogenesis.
What is the chance that the universe could assume all of the proper conditions such that life will occur? Well if it is life asking the question, then the chance is 100% (a.k.a. The Anthropic Principle).

So what you're saying is, there will be a turbo BRZ in 2017?

[projek_01]

That means the same thread in another solar system exists on a planet called Htrae.

/insert "Aliens" meme

[themadscientist]

I can't handle the almost violence....

Originally Posted by Special_K

What you didn't know?! Geez man use the once in a while haha.



The difference being, all those Off-topic threads had an easily identifiable starting point. eg: "What's your guys favorite _____?" or "Have you seen the new ______?"

Whereas this one hit us like a closing argument to a thesis none of us were privy to; except for the few people that had visited the thread in which our good pal Squady innocently asked how long people went before their first oil change.

In any case, it's Friday and I'm not about to get all hot n bothered, so I'm going to pull out the and leave this thread to the qualified individuals. But first, in the spirit of de-escalation here's a Gif of the Red Panda proving he could take us all to church when it comes to pull-up ring reps.

That! /\

This thread is interesting, but I, too, felt like I just walked into a movie 30 minutes after it started.

[themadscientist]

Originally Posted by OnkelC

There's nothing like a K&N for pure performance cabin filtering.

I know they say "filter," but I'm pretty sure they won't improve the ambient air quality.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by stugray

One of the best ways to illustrate the concept is with the "tornado in a junkyard" analogy.

What is the chance that a tornado hits a random automotive junkyard and the result is fully assembled 67 Camaro SS from just the random junk laying around.
MOST people would argue that is absurd, and could "NEVER happen".
Now what if you had 1 million tornados and 1 million junkyards?
What are your chances now? Still damn close to zero!

NOW WHAT if you had an infinite number of tornados and an infinite number of junkyards?
What is the chance that you get even ONE 67 camaro SS? The chance is now 100%.

I've never heard this one before, 99% of the time it's monkeys and typewriters (now keyboards, there's something that will disappear forever in a few years) and the complete works of Shakespeare.

[stugray]

Originally Posted by ScoobsMcGee

So what you're saying is, there will be a turbo BRZ in 2017?

According to the many worlds interpretation of QM, there would be an many almost-exact duplicates of this universe, many in which they DID decide to put a turbo in the 2017 BRZ & Zayn Malik is still in One Direction :-)

Originally Posted by strat61caster

I've never heard this one before, 99% of the time it's monkeys and typewriters (now keyboards, there's something that will disappear forever in a few years) and the complete works of Shakespeare.

Infinite number of monkeys, half a dozen infinite junkyards?

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

The Misanthropic Principle

[stugray]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

The Misanthropic Principle

That is where if you are reclusive enough and avoid all human contact, MAYBE the rest of humanity will just cease to exist.

I have tried it, it doesnt work. ....still wish it would..... Just think of the car collection that I could have.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by stugray

That is where if you are reclusive enough and avoid all human contact, MAYBE the rest of humanity will just cease to exist.

I have tried it, it doesnt work. ....still wish it would..... Just think of the car collection that I could have.

And you would win every race so, bonus there.

[wbradley]

I think its widely believed most hydrocarbon deposits on earth are formed from primordial algaes and similar simple ancient organisms. This explains the concentrated hydrocarbons. We can produce petroleum and related compounds from algae now. When we deplete the worlds accessible oil deposits, plants and algae will be used to produce petroleum like compounds where there is no practical substitute.

If the twins go FI in the future it will be with a smaller displacement motor. Maybe Subaru's 1.6T in the Levorg.

[stugray]

Originally Posted by wbradley

I think its widely believed most hydrocarbon deposits on earth are formed from primordial algaes and similar simple ancient organisms. .

"Widely Believed" /= "Scientific fact"

I do not dispute that some of the petroleum on earth is from decomposed plant/animal material (way over 90% of the contribution would be plant), it is just a tiny portion of the total.

Again, IF petroleum comes from plants, where did all the hydrocarbons on Titan come from?

"Saturn's orange moon Titan has hundreds of times more liquid hydrocarbons than all the known oil and natural gas reserves on Earth, according to new data from NASA's Cassini spacecraft."

Must be plant life & Saturnian dinosaurs?