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Old 11-26-2010, 02:54 AM   #43
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For the Gs not having that much torque, all we know is that it's turbo'd. We don't know how much boost. Given that its peak is at 6500 rpm it's probably not making that much boost.

And as for needing a huge amount of torque for drifting, there are other options, like clutch-kicking, to put the motor in its powerband.

PS: for those who don't know, hold the e-brake button a little longer in GT5 (whole series I think) to clutch-kick.
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Old 11-26-2010, 12:48 PM   #45
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so, for you guys that played gt5, whats the hp/torque curve look like? rather flat? uphill then a sharp decline?
There's a graph of it.
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There's a graph of it.
A 8500 RPM power peak? An engine with these curves hasn't got a chance in hell of making it to production - many $200K supercars don't rev that high (Wankels of course are a different matter).

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A 8500 RPM power peak? An engine with these curves hasn't got a chance in hell of making it to production - many $200K supercars don't rev that high (Wankels of course are a different matter).

Please see;

Honda F20C, K20A, B18C (8300rpm, 8400rpm, 8200rpm)

Toyota 4AGE (7800 rpm), 2ZZ (7600rpm)

Most supercars have large engines, with 8-12 cylinders, which have a lot more rotational mass than a 4 cylinder (hence all the more impressive when they do rev that high). Sure, most everyday cars don't rev that high either, but it's not impossible, nor even improbable that it could. Just saying.

Also, that being said, the specs do say the peak is at 8000, not 8500.
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interesting graph that, it sais it has a peak torque of 225Nm.. where did u get those curves from?? cus that goes against the gt5 stats posted earlier (perhaps im reading it wrong the left axis is kinda blury)
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Got mine in 'Flash Red', is that the official 'Monkey-ass' red?

As for the G's turbo output, I've been thinking...

Don't take the numbers as a factory turbo motor. The Gs stuff is supposed to be dealer/factory 'aftermarket' right? So treat this as a turbo kit on an un-opened NA motor. And also keep in mind that JDM factory-supported mods seem to be more conservative than what US/North American tuning is used to. I would speculate that it is no more than 6-7 psi, whereas if it was a Subaru factory turbo motor it would probably be 12+ psi and the boost/torque would come earlier.

(Also this is the first Gran Turismo game that lets you put the car on its roof...)
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OMG!! That Brilliant Blue on black Rays!! ...MY NEW DREAM!!

Let see drift =)



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I bought gt5 today but came find any g27 wheel, its sold out everywhere even online! Do you know a website where I can order and receive next week?
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Please see;

Honda F20C, K20A, B18C (8300rpm, 8400rpm, 8200rpm)

Toyota 4AGE (7800 rpm), 2ZZ (7600rpm)

Most supercars have large engines, with 8-12 cylinders, which have a lot more rotational mass than a 4 cylinder (hence all the more impressive when they do rev that high). Sure, most everyday cars don't rev that high either, but it's not impossible, nor even improbable that it could. Just saying.

Also, that being said, the specs do say the peak is at 8000, not 8500.
F20C is 9000RPM. F22C is 8200RPM
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F20C is 9000RPM. F22C is 8200RPM
Power peak, not rev limit.
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I'm no engine buff, but I suspect that most of the engines you cite are older and less fuel-efficient designs than those the carmakers are currently bringing into play, so their relevance as a basis for the FT-86 comparison is limited; the engine in the FR-S will of necessity be a more frugal with fuel given the upcoming changes in gas mileage regulations.

As to the power peak, I was going only by the graph, it looked a bit higher than 8K there.

Even high-end sixes don't often get that high - IIRC current Porsches redline at about 7200; my father's older 911 had a 6800 redline.

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Please see;

Honda F20C, K20A, B18C (8300rpm, 8400rpm, 8200rpm)

Toyota 4AGE (7800 rpm), 2ZZ (7600rpm)

Most supercars have large engines, with 8-12 cylinders, which have a lot more rotational mass than a 4 cylinder (hence all the more impressive when they do rev that high). Sure, most everyday cars don't rev that high either, but it's not impossible, nor even improbable that it could. Just saying.

Also, that being said, the specs do say the peak is at 8000, not 8500.
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