Comparison of the best ~2 liter N/A engines ever produced

[8R6]

Originally Posted by DohcTor

If it's more fun to drive than the FRS... Does it matter?

i dont know about that... i love my old hondas and they were a blast to drive in their own way. but i love the way my FRS drives too. i actually have been looking for a 90-00 civic/integra but theyre either going for too much and/or have been jacked up by their dozen previous owners lol. and i dont want to have to garage a 20yr old honda and street park my FRS just so no one jacks the damn honda

[hmong337]

Originally Posted by drewbot

What's upsetting about this whole thread is that you can't walk into Honda and find anything appetizing anymore...

Honestly, I always wished they would just come out with a K24 or K20 RWD Prelude

Or a midengine vtec delsol

[86Tony]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

I haven't laughed this hard in a while.

Laugh all you want bro clearly you haven't messed with no k20 so the jokes on you dude haha. I'm telling you from my own personal experience with them, having owned 4 kswap honda. Once I got my 86 I relized how weak this thing is. No point on even trying to argue with some one that haven't tried it . Try it maybe you will get hooked for life. Tell me why if the k20 is so shit that they swap it into lotus, rx7, mr2, miata, noble, Ariel atom the list can go on and on.

[tahdizzle]

Originally Posted by 86Tony

Laugh all you want bro clearly you haven't messed with no k20 so the jokes on you dude haha. I'm telling you from my own personal experience with them, having owned 4 kswap honda. Once I got my 86 I relized how weak this thing is. No point on even trying to argue with some one that haven't tried it . Try it maybe you will get hooked for life. Tell me why if the k20 is so shit that they swap it into lotus, rx7, mr2, miata, noble, Ariel atom the list can go on and on.

People also swap ls(insert which type), 2azfe, b series, rotaries.... list goes on and on.

The answer to your questions is: Availabilty, preference and costs.

In other words: I'm a XXXX fanboy, so I want XXXX. And they are all over place for cheap

[86Tony]

Like I said try it before you speak. Those motors you just listed don't even compare to a k series. That's why in my home town most track record are held by a k swap teggy. I'm a big fan of all kinds of cars and engine but the k is something else. Only a honda enthusiast will only understand what I'm saying

[tahdizzle]

Originally Posted by 86Tony

Like I said try it before you speak. Those motors you just listed don't even compare to a k series. That's why in my home town most track record are held by a k swap teggy. I'm a big fan of all kinds of cars and engine but the k is something else. Only a honda enthusiast will only understand what I'm saying

Just stop.

LOL just stop. I am not even going to try to explain WHY all of your posting is OPINION.

Sure you might have a Honda Integra, with an engine swap,in your lil home town that holds track records; but I fail to see how that is justification on why a K20 is the bee's knees like you make it out to be.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by 86Tony

Laugh all you want bro clearly you haven't messed with no k20 so the jokes on you dude haha. I'm telling you from my own personal experience with them, having owned 4 kswap honda. Once I got my 86 I relized how weak this thing is. No point on even trying to argue with some one that haven't tried it . Try it maybe you will get hooked for life. Tell me why if the k20 is so shit that they swap it into lotus, rx7, mr2, miata, noble, Ariel atom the list can go on and on.

Originally Posted by 86Tony

Like I said try it before you speak. Those motors you just listed don't even compare to a k series. That's why in my home town most track record are held by a k swap teggy. I'm a big fan of all kinds of cars and engine but the k is something else. Only a honda enthusiast will only understand what I'm saying

I'm sorry that working with a F2xC was out of your budget.

What did your K series make and what did you do to it?

This is a *naturally aspirated* built F2xC

[8R6]

Originally Posted by 86Tony

...Only a honda fanboi will only understand what I'm saying

quote fixed.

if you were a "true honda enthusiast" then you wouldnt be so adamant about praising the k-series against the f2x engines. you remind me of the fools back in the day that would clown on any single cams and non-vtec b/h/f-series engines just cuz they had a b16/b18c. what kind of "honda enthusiast" is that nonsense?? get that noise outta here.

the k engines are solid engines but to act like they're God's gift to gas engines is immature and a joke. you are a fanboi and not an enthusiast. get over yourself and your hometown legend stories. all of us got stories of our own. people like you are a disgrace to us old school honda guys.

[86Tony]

Originally Posted by 8R6

quote fixed.

if you were a "true honda enthusiast" then you wouldnt be so adamant about praising the k-series against the f2x engines. you remind me of the fools back in the day that would clown on any single cams and non-vtec b/h/f-series engines just cuz they had a b16/b18c. what kind of "honda enthusiast" is that nonsense?? get that noise outta here.

the k engines are solid engines but to act like they're God's gift to gas engines is immature and a joke. you are a fanboi and not an enthusiast. get over yourself and your hometown legend stories. all of us got stories of our own. people like you are a disgrace to us old school honda guys.

Did I say anything about other honda engine bro? I played with them all and respect them all last time I checked me were talking about k series engines da fuq wrong with you. And yes I'm a big fan of the k20/24 motors the k has always made more TQ then the f20c that's why s2k owners are swapping them for k24 cause it has more usable power down low to get around the track faster.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by 86Tony

Did I say anything about other honda engine bro? I played with them all and respect them all last time I checked me were talking about k series engines da fuq wrong with you. And yes I'm a big fan of the k20/24 motors the k has always made more TQ then the f20c that's why s2k owners are swapping them for k24 cause it has more usable power down low to get around the track faster.

So, so wrong.

They do it because a K24 can be had for $600, and make S2k power with a K20 head. Run it a season, and swap for a new one, because the bottom end will be done by then.

It lets you get a fatter upper-mid range, with a decreasing torque as RPMs go up, to meet power/weight requirements. If you're that low in the RPM band, you're definitely not winning.

Nobody cares about low end power on track except people who've never actually been on track.

[86Tony]

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0E0NVglolE"]K24 S2000 vs F22 S2000 on track - YouTube[/ame]

[86Tony]

[QUOTE=CSG Mike;2249776]So, so wrong.

They do it because a K24 can be had for $600, and make S2k power with a K20 head. Run it a season, and swap for a new one, because the bottom end will be done by then.

It lets you get a fatter upper-mid range, with a decreasing torque as RPMs go up, to meet power/weight requirements. If you're that low in the RPM band, you're definitely not winning.

Nobody cares about low end power on track except people who've never actually been on

low end power helps you have faster corner exit speed. If we comparing to only honda engines. Depends in which track your talking about also.

[86Tony]

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQe-sFFfg-E"]S2000 F22C vs K24 vs EVO X vs Turbo S2K: Mosport International Raceway Back Straight - YouTube[/ame]

[86Tony]

That is my buddy in his k24 prelude this is our home track. And you see the s2k can't even catch up to him. You see how fast his corner exit speed is compared to the s2k.