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Old 05-13-2015, 04:57 PM   #71
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I think you need to unplug and replug your stability control sensors. You can locate them in this PDF, "http://www.ft86club.com/files/BRZwiringi.pdf". The front sensors are labeled A42 LF, A12 RF, for the front, and G9 LR, H12 RR, for the back. You'll find a diagram of locations on page 39 for the fronts, and 44 for the left rear, and 45 for the right rear. One of these connectors was likely dislodged during your recent spring install. Inspect the wires closely because maybe a wire was cut or pinched during the upgrade. It's very unlikely that the VSC controller itself is affected, and much more likely that a sensor or connector was.

From the diagrams, it looks much more likely for the rear speed sensors to have been dislodged, then the front ones. I would suggest checking those first, the VSC is also under the hood next to the LF speed sensor, if that's come loose it will also cause problems.
If it were a wheel speed sensor it would be doing something very different. If one (or more) of them are unplugged it'll how up as soon as you start the car, and VSC/TC will be disabled entirely since it can't figure out what to do with one (or more) sensors down.
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Old 05-13-2015, 06:49 PM   #72
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I am not sure if I mentioned this before, but I got my suspension installed, corner balanced and aligned. I ran the car on stock tires and it was awesome. Decided to upgrade to lightweight wheels and MPSS and it was actually the tire/wheel change that, some how, made the VSC way more sensitive. Same suspension and alignment, but as soon as I swapped tires and wheels it started acting up....

I went to the alignment shop today and they had no idea what could be causing it. They said they would put the car on the rack and re check my alignment if I wanted. Still hoping the VSC re set will fix it. Will be doing it over the weekend .
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Have you tried disconnecting the battery for a few minutes?
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I've racked up about 5000-8000 miles of track time on my car over the past summer. I'm pretty sure that a CEL would have come on as 95% of that time was with TC turned off (non-pedal dance).

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Ya, I've also done a lot of track days and not seen this problem before either.
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I am not sure if I mentioned this before, but I got my suspension installed, corner balanced and aligned. I ran the car on stock tires and it was awesome. Decided to upgrade to lightweight wheels and MPSS and it was actually the tire/wheel change that, some how, made the VSC way more sensitive. Same suspension and alignment, but as soon as I swapped tires and wheels it started acting up....

I went to the alignment shop today and they had no idea what could be causing it. They said they would put the car on the rack and re check my alignment if I wanted. Still hoping the VSC re set will fix it. Will be doing it over the weekend .
I remember reading last winter some people struggling with overly sensitive VSC after installing taller snow tires. Are you absolutely positive that there isn't anything odd about your wheel/tire configuration?

Are you possibly overdamped and getting some wheel skip?
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VSC doesn't know if the car is lowered, there is no ride height sensor. The yaw sensor might not know what neutral flat is, but I can't imagine it would be THAT far out without a huge amount of rake.

Lowered on swift sport springs, -2* camber all around, 0 front toe, 1/16" rear toe in. 225/45/17 RS3 v2's. Zero issues with VSC being more invasive than normal.
Errr, well I guess I mean the TC light will kick on and I can feel/hear my rear tires braking.
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I remember reading last winter some people struggling with overly sensitive VSC after installing taller snow tires. Are you absolutely positive that there isn't anything odd about your wheel/tire configuration?

Are you possibly overdamped and getting some wheel skip?
Stock size on both wheels and tires.

Coilovers are set very soft.
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Have you tried disconnecting the battery for a few minutes?
I don't THINK that will reset the stability control.
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Old 05-14-2015, 06:47 AM   #79
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I am not sure if I mentioned this before, but I got my suspension installed, corner balanced and aligned. I ran the car on stock tires and it was awesome. Decided to upgrade to lightweight wheels and MPSS and it was actually the tire/wheel change that, some how, made the VSC way more sensitive. Same suspension and alignment, but as soon as I swapped tires and wheels it started acting up....

I went to the alignment shop today and they had no idea what could be causing it. They said they would put the car on the rack and re check my alignment if I wanted. Still hoping the VSC re set will fix it. Will be doing it over the weekend .
What size wheels/tires? What tire pressure? How warm has it been when this is happening? MPSS will need a bit more heat in them before they start gripping better, if they're really cold they'll have less grip than stock tires.

For everyone having this issue, is VSC actually more intrusive or is the car breaking traction easier?
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What size wheels/tires? What tire pressure? How warm has it been when this is happening? MPSS will need a bit more heat in them before they start gripping better, if they're really cold they'll have less grip than stock tires.

For everyone having this issue, is VSC actually more intrusive or is the car breaking traction easier?
I seem to have this issue as well. To me it seems like VSC is more intrusive than anything since I can turn it all off (buttons on the center console, no pedal dance) and I don't feel any slip.

I'm on RCE Tarmac 0's, 17x9 wheels with 245/40 PSS's.
Alignment is F/R
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0/.02 toe in.
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Bizarre... in "normal" or sport mode I can definitely feel slip before the VSC steps in.
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I seem to have this issue as well. To me it seems like VSC is more intrusive than anything since I can turn it all off (buttons on the center console, no pedal dance) and I don't feel any slip.

I'm on RCE Tarmac 0's, 17x9 wheels with 245/40 PSS's.
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Exactly right. If I turn VSC off the car feels amazing.
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Has anyone tried disconnecting their battery for a few mins? Seems like a good idea to try anyway...
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Exactly right. If I turn VSC off the car feels amazing.

Same to me, last time I try totally off on canyon road, it is amazing


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