Comparison of the best ~2 liter N/A engines ever produced - Page 18 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

8R6 · 05-07-2015, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Sideways&Smiling

There are swap kits to put them in Miatas and MR2s though.

yeah but thats why i wrote hondas...

wbradley · 05-07-2015, 05:23 PM

Reliability is as of yet unproven, but what about the 2.0L 355 BHP engine in the MB CLA AMG? Highest HP/L in a mass produced engine.

Forged pistons, and I think something like 28 lbs boost.

tahdizzle · 05-07-2015, 05:27 PM

Highest output 4cyl in a production vehicle right there, but we're talking N/A.

BRZ21 · 05-13-2015, 04:54 PM

the title of the thread is "Comparison of the best ~2 liter N/A engines ever produced"

krayzie · 05-13-2015, 06:27 PM

Let me think about this I keep thinking Turbo lol!

CSG Mike · 05-13-2015, 06:45 PM

F20C.... end of story

/thread

fatoni · 05-13-2015, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike

F20C.... end of story

/thread

you think its better than the k20?

CSG Mike · 05-13-2015, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by fatoni

you think its better than the k20?

That depends on the metric, but for the most part yes

fatoni · 05-13-2015, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike

That depends on the metric, but for the most part yes

why? im not really up to date on honda jazz but i just got the impression that the honda world was liking the k more. engines are never really a concern to me...

krayzie · 05-13-2015, 11:30 PM

Well the S2000 being Honda's 50th Anniversary car (who even remembers this) I would imagine they put the best engine in it lol!

I also don't think any variant of the K20A had a higher piston speed than a F20C/F22C out of the factory. That's pretty amazing if you ask me.

Another fun fact is that I watched a video of Bob Hall doing a presentation at his last ever Mazda event, he mentioned that the Honda S2000 project started originally as the S1600 and it was intented to beat the Miata in every possible spec.

fatoni · 05-14-2015, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by krayzie

Well the S2000 being Honda's 50th Anniversary car (who even remembers this) I would imagine they put the best engine in it lol!

I also don't think any variant of the K20A had a higher piston speed than a F20C/F22C out of the factory. That's pretty amazing if you ask me.

Another fun fact is that I watched a video of Bob Hall doing a presentation at his last ever Mazda event, he mentioned that the Honda S2000 project started originally as the S1600 and it was intented to beat the Miata in every possible spec.

yeah its a special car for sure. i dont think its hard to beat a miata in terms of objective metrics. they did that but somehow, here we are without the s2k and with a miata. my reason for question is that the kseries seems to respond to mods much better than the f20.

serialk11r · 05-14-2015, 01:10 AM

I think K20s are easier to come by and since they come with FWD transaxles they're popular swaps into some MR platforms, along with FWD Hondas obviously.

What can you swap an F20C into? I've never seen a swap...

Bigger crowd makes more noise.

fatoni · 05-14-2015, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by serialk11r

I think K20s are easier to come by and since they come with FWD transaxles they're popular swaps into some MR platforms, along with FWD Hondas obviously.

What can you swap an F20C into? I've never seen a swap...

Bigger crowd makes more noise.

there are k swapped miatas and s2ks. i know sometimes things are done just to be done but it raises an eyebrow

swarb · 05-14-2015, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by fatoni

why? im not really up to date on honda jazz.

honda jazz is the honda fit in the US

Quote:

Originally Posted by serialk11r

I think K20s are easier to come by and since they come with FWD transaxles they're popular swaps into some MR platforms, along with FWD Hondas obviously.

What can you swap an F20C into? I've never seen a swap...

Bigger crowd makes more noise.

yeah and having a car under 2,000 lbs and 220-240++hp(some what easily) is a big deal. Everyone(still in the honda fwd game) went from b/h-series to k pretty much. Too bad they get stolen all the time and I hate being one of "those" people, especially with law enforcement.

I have seen a couple ae86 swaps, a datsun 1600 roadster and 510 swaps.

I guess we can call agree that the top 2.0 motor is probably from Honda motor co.

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krayzie Drive From Home Join Date: Dec 2013 Drives: BRZ STI Performance Location: Filth City Posts: 4,912 Thanks: 2,368 Thanked 3,111 Times in 2,007 Posts Mentioned: 30 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Well the S2000 being Honda's 50th Anniversary car (who even remembers this) I would imagine they put the best engine in it lol! I also don't think any variant of the K20A had a higher piston speed than a F20C/F22C out of the factory. That's pretty amazing if you ask me. Another fun fact is that I watched a video of Bob Hall doing a presentation at his last ever Mazda event, he mentioned that the Honda S2000 project started originally as the S1600 and it was intented to beat the Miata in every possible spec.

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