Starting to think these cars are low quality

[Ddreder]

Originally Posted by teamturbo

List of problems with the vehicle. 23 months old & 17,000 miles:

Tail light condensation - Day 1 (Don't really care)
Squeaky windows - Day 1 (Bothers me)
Steering wheel ruined & replaced - Month 6
Right window switch failure - Month 19
Yesterday dash has began to unglue. Use sun shield on hot months. - Month 23

I've driven Hondas that are 20yrs old that never had such issues. You'd think Toyota & Subaru know how to get the basics down this day and age.

I can only imagine what's going to happen in the coming months when the warranty expires...

I have had almost the exact same issues on my 2013 and I have gotten them all fixed under TSB's and life has been good. I had both tail lights replace, Both window motors and assemblies as well as switches replaced with the newer 2015 style to fix the window roll down thing as well as the squeaking. They did the weather strips. Idk how you ruined a steering wheel though lol and then the dash unglueing is the only thing I havent brought up to them. I have like a month or two before I roll over 36K miles so idk what I am going to do about that. I also use a sunshade but I dont think it is helping..

Also dont even get me started on the rattles in this car.. Effin cheap peice of crap If it didnt drive so well I probably would have sold it by now.

[chaoskaze]

Things are made to fall apart now.........

My Dad still have his 91 corolla cuz it just wont quit working. He only changed engine mount/timing belt once other then regular maintenance. The Sony TV sitting in my family's living room just quit only half year ago. That's 25 years for a TV, the thing basically grow up with me.

The 2000 CRV I had was really good too, I really beat on that thing till I come around & love it.
You want to have quality/durability from that era of cars? Get a Lexus and hope u are lucky.

[Packofcrows]

Originally Posted by teamturbo

List of problems with the vehicle. 23 months old & 17,000 miles:

Tail light condensation - Day 1 (Don't really care)
Squeaky windows - Day 1 (Bothers me)
Steering wheel ruined & replaced - Month 6
Right window switch failure - Month 19
Yesterday dash has began to unglue. Use sun shield on hot months. - Month 23

I've driven Hondas that are 20yrs old that never had such issues. You'd think Toyota & Subaru know how to get the basics down this day and age.

I can only imagine what's going to happen in the coming months when the warranty expires...

Nope. No issues. Just had 2nd gear making noise but once its warm, its dead silent.

If something quality of seat material because it loves to grab lint and stuff.

Originally Posted by chaoskaze

Things are made to fall apart now......... My Dad still have his 91 corolla cuz it just wont quit working...... Only changed engine mount/timing belt once other then regular maintenance.

You want to have quality/durability from that era of cars? Get a Lexus and hope u are lucky.

1990 Pickup with 320k, all original but clutch.

[Tromatic]

Originally Posted by Ddreder

Also dont even get me started on the rattles in this car.. Effin cheap peice of crap If it didnt drive so well I probably would have sold it by now.

Mine is quieter, by a wide margin, that the RS8 tC I had. THAT was noisy. What did you really expect from a car that had to have pennies pinched everywhere to even see daylight? Is it an age thing? Lower expectations? I'm still amazed at the number of people here (seems to be the majority as well) who hate the car.

[wootwoot]

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

If you think that is low quality you should check out the mustang forums.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Tromatic

Mine is quieter, by a wide margin, that the RS8 tC I had. THAT was noisy. What did you really expect from a car that had to have pennies pinched everywhere to even see daylight? Is it an age thing? Lower expectations? I'm still amazed at the number of people here (seems to be the majority as well) who hate the car.

It may not be so much an "age" thing as it is a current state of automotive affairs thing. Since the early 90s cars have got more and more luxurious at lower and lower trim levels just to try to compete. Even the lowest and cheapest trim levels now have so many goodies (and yes that includes soundproofing) that you take one or two of those things away and all of a sudden people are complaining.
Anybody that ever drove a base level 1960s-70s Dart will know exactly what I mean.

[Ddreder]

Originally Posted by Tromatic

Mine is quieter, by a wide margin, that the RS8 tC I had. THAT was noisy. What did you really expect from a car that had to have pennies pinched everywhere to even see daylight? Is it an age thing? Lower expectations? I'm still amazed at the number of people here (seems to be the majority as well) who hate the car.

You are right about the cost.. That is why I cut the car some slack. The rattles are just a personal issue of mine. They probably arent that bad for most but I just despise rattles. Even in my miata I am hunting down every rattle I can find so that the car is more bearable to drive long distances. When the soft top is folded down it rattles like crazy. When I go from the miata to the FRS though its like going from a tin can to a lexus. The FRS seems perfect for awhile but the little stuff just gets to me. Thats why I have to have more than 2 cars at all times

[Wise]

Owned my 2012 Toyota 86 for almost 3 years now and I haven't had any issues.

Sure the windows squeek a bit after a wash but that's pretty normal with frameless windows.

[humfrz]

Either my 2 year old, 2013 FR-S, doesn't squeak or rattle ..... or I just can't hear it, even down cow paths or off road .....

humfrz

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by humfrz

Either my 2 year old, 2013 FR-S, doesn't squeak or rattle ..... or I just can't hear it, even down cow paths or off road .....

humfrz

I had a few minor ones when it was -20 out but they are all gone now that it has warmed up.
Oh, and my car had a few as well but they went away too.

[Ultramaroon]

My steering wheel is a POS. Shitty sticky coating never quite cured and peeled right off. I'm not sure if I want to let the dealer fuck with it.

The windows are a bitch to align properly but I figured out how to do it and dialed them in perfectly. Very much a "feel" thing and can easily see there being quality issues from one assembler to the next.

Only noise I have is the rear deck pop. Meh, DGAF once I figured out the cause. I can wiggle the seam and get it to pop at will. Not worth bending anything to quiet it IMHO.

edit: ...and zero regrets. A year later and still giddy every time I get behind the wheel. It's a joy to learn inside and out.

[FR-Sizzle]

Youve obviously never owned a first year/production car. This is why you never buy a car in its first year in production and allow them to work out all the problems.

[RL_BRZ]

I own my BRZ for 32 months and 33,500 miles odometer reading... No problem encountered... Just cricket sound in the engine...

[jarviz]

2013 model with 65K miles. Only problems so far is tail light condensation which was fixed under warranty. Squeaky windows when its when which doesn't bother me. No other issues (knock on wood) and still a blast to drive.