Starting to think these cars are low quality

[teamturbo]

List of problems with the vehicle. 23 months old & 17,000 miles:

Tail light condensation - Day 1 (Don't really care)
Squeaky windows - Day 1 (Bothers me)
Steering wheel ruined & replaced - Month 6
Right window switch failure - Month 19
Yesterday dash has began to unglue. Use sun shield on hot months. - Month 23

I've driven Hondas that are 20yrs old that never had such issues. You'd think Toyota & Subaru know how to get the basics down this day and age.

I can only imagine what's going to happen in the coming months when the warranty expires...

[LucidMomentum]

I haven't had any of those problems. Car must be high quality.

[rice_classic]

Nothing will ever be as dead nuts reliable as a 20 year old Honda. Unfortunately I think those days are behind us.

It turns how that many owners of new Honda's are going through the same thing. Early clutch failures on the FIT are a good example.

[fitcious]

I have 22,000 miles and coming up on my 23rd month too - no issues so far. Mine is a 2013 as well.

[extrashaky]

Originally Posted by LucidMomentum

I haven't had any of those problems. Car must be high quality.

Same here. Double high quality.

[LucidMomentum]

Originally Posted by extrashaky

Same here. Double high quality.

Parts miss QA sometimes. Tolerances for part fitment and measurements add up. Thousands of cars roll off the line each day.

You're bound to have a bad part every so often. Calling the whole car low quality as a result is a bit of a stretch.

Lamborghini engines catch fire occasionally, yet people don't call them low quality, do they?

[Takumi788]

So you are saying that your $25k car is low quality?

Even Porsches have recalls and problems friend. At least the engine hasn't been known to catch fire to a point to where you need to return it for an entirely new engine.

[shiumai]

Originally Posted by teamturbo

I can only imagine what's going to happen in the coming months when the warranty expires...

Time to go forced induction!!!!

[HunterGreene]

Whats the story with the steering wheel? The rest sound like minor gripes, sorry that the car didn't meat your $50,000 expectations.

[DuMa]

the car has ears, my friend. dont ever let her hear you speak of her like that

[FRSNewb]

my car has problems thus all cars have the same problems

[funwheeldrive]

If you think that is low quality you should check out the mustang forums.

[Ammunition]

Originally Posted by teamturbo

List of problems with the vehicle. 23 months old & 17,000 miles:

Tail light condensation - Day 1 (Don't really care)
Squeaky windows - Day 1 (Bothers me)
Steering wheel ruined & replaced - Month 6
Right window switch failure - Month 19
Yesterday dash has began to unglue. Use sun shield on hot months. - Month 23

I've driven Hondas that are 20yrs old that never had such issues. You'd think Toyota & Subaru know how to get the basics down this day and age.

I can only imagine what's going to happen in the coming months when the warranty expires...

The tail light condensation is frustrating, but that's something that could happen to any non-higher end car. I've seen cars from other brands driving around with a fishbowl amount of water in them, especially if your car is parked outside; when I had my car in for service at the dealership, I walked around the lot and there were numerous cars (not just the FR-Ss) that had condensation - it sucks, but there are a number of ways you can fix it easily.

The windows on this car are the first one's I've had that are designed this way - without the door frame encompassing them, so I'm not sure if that is part of the issue, but you also don't really define the context of 'squeaky'.

My steering wheel looks like the day it did I drove the car off the lot - do you ever clean it? Especially if your car is parked outside in the heat, eventually oil from your hands is going to cause damage to it - this is true for any materials like this exposed to extreme conditions. Personally, the steering wheel on the FR-S is the most comfortable, and enjoyable steering heel I've had; I cannot stand the hard plastic one in my mom's '05 4Runner, that makes grip incredibly sketchy if your hands are sweating at all, and not to mention uncomfortable - but again, you don't really define 'ruined'.

I'm not sure about the stitching either - I haven't had any problems with mine. Do you rest your arm on the door a lot, and move it around while resting, or anything that might cause rubbing that would damage the threads? Again, this is less of an issue with the car as it is caring for basic materials that are designed like this.

I have heard that a few have had issues with the dash warping or ungluing - did you talk to your dealership about it? Again, I've never experienced this problem, and it's odd if you are good about using the sunshade (which I do in warm weather anytime I'm going to be parked somewhere for 15 minutes, or longer) - maybe consider getting a tint if you don't have one already, as it seems several of your issues may be related to your car getting too hot when parked outside?

I'm sorry to hear about the issues you're having, but it does sound like a few of them could be brought up with the dealership, and I would encourage you to do so before your warranty is up. Also, several of your issues should be fixable with some DIY work; there are definitely at least a few options available to you, so don't feel that you're just stuck having to be miserable, and liking your car less because of it.

[malave7567]

Originally Posted by Ammunition

My steering wheel looks like the day it did I drove the car off the lot - do you ever clean it? Especially if your car is parked outside in the heat, eventually oil from your hands is going to cause damage to it - this is true for any materials like this exposed to extreme conditions. Personally, the steering wheel on the FR-S is the most comfortable, and enjoyable steering heel I've had; I cannot stand the hard plastic one in my mom's '05 4Runner, that makes grip incredibly sketchy if your hands are sweating at all, and not to mention uncomfortable - but again, you don't really define 'ruined'.

This is the only one I can comment on myself, but I've seen multiple 86 drivers who have the steering wheel peeling off material. Granted, these guys also all track or autocross their cars, so their wheels see more abuse. I think they all got it replaced under warranty though.