Jackson Racing Supercharger Owners Thread

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by LS1M

I don't think that's required outside of California, is it? Last time I checked, here in Texas they just plug into the odb2 port & if it shows the emissions tests are completed and the SES light is off, you pass.

Yes, the CARB tune is only mandatory to be legal in California. Other states may vary.

Passing inspection is not the same as being legal; you can pass smog quite easily with an illegal car in California, but if you get cited for modifications or emissions violations, then that CARB sticker is going to save you a massive headache AND a massive fine.

In CA, if you have a history of smog citations, then every smog you get will require you to get a STAR test, instead of just a OBD2 readiness test. There's more than one reason to get the CARB tune, especially in California.

Outside of California, if you're planning on keeping your stock cats, chances are the CARB tune is more developed than something your local tuner can throw together on a dyno in just 4 hours. There's more to a tune than just doing a lot of WOT pulls and making adjustments to open loop operation for maximum safe power.

[uRBAN_Metal]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

You cannot go to a tuner, with you oft, and ask them to give you a tune. They can't.

Having owned an OFT in the past, this is absolutely untrue. All of the maps are open and easily editable in RomRaider. The biggest reason tuners wouldn't tune with the OFT were the incredibly long write times, which I've been told have been reduced, and they would have to use a set of tools they weren't used to.

It may be possible that JR are using features of EcuTek in the CARB map that are not available in the OFT, but that doesn't mean you can't tune with it. The hard part would be finding someone willing to develop a map for you with the tools available. It's been done with the Vortech and SBD kits, there's no reason it can't be done here. I switched to EcuTek because I didn't want to deal with the hassle of making the OFT work, when working with a reputable tuner was easily accessible.

[Andrew025]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

You cannot go to a tuner, with you oft, and ask them to give you a tune. They can't.

You're essentially stuck with what OFT provides you, and they haven't provided any sort of JRSC compatible map, nor do I forsee one coming in the future. This picture from @DeliciousTuning sums it up perfectly.

0 ecutek issues. Plenty of OFT issues.

You're getting a JRSC, not a KWSC, right?

That's a pretty misleading picture, which was also mentioned in that thread it was originally posted in.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by uRBAN_Metal

Having owned an OFT in the past, this is absolutely untrue. All of the maps are open and easily editable in RomRaider. The biggest reason tuners wouldn't tune with the OFT were the incredibly long write times, which I've been told have been reduced, and they would have to use a set of tools they weren't used to.

It may be possible that JR are using features of EcuTek in the CARB map that are not available in the OFT, but that doesn't mean you can't tune with it. The hard part would be finding someone willing to develop a map for you with the tools available. It's been done with the Vortech and SBD kits, there's no reason it can't be done here. I switched to EcuTek because I didn't want to deal with the hassle of making the OFT work, when working with a reputable tuner was easily accessible.

I would not be comfortable using a tune using the tables that are currently editable with OFT.

Your car, not mine.

Just as you sold your OFT, the sheer number of them for sale, used, should speak for itself.

[uRBAN_Metal]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

I would not be comfortable using a tune using the tables that are currently editable with OFT.

Your car, not mine.

Just as you sold your OFT, the sheer number of them for sale, used, should speak for itself.

My point was that anyone can most certainly tune any setup with the OFT if they wanted to, regardless of your decision to drive the car. You said it can't be done, when it has been for quite some time. As far as I'm aware, however, you can't get into hybrid speed density territory with the OFT, which is probably what you're talking about.

Again, I have an EcuTek tune and am perfectly happy with it. My car won't be blowing up any time soon.

[ApolloSki]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

I would not be comfortable using a tune using the tables that are currently editable with OFT.

Your car, not mine.

Just as you sold your OFT, the sheer number of them for sale, used, should speak for itself.

Most of those are people either selling their cars or going FI. At least you can resell them at almost full value. Can't say the same for Ecutek.

[uRBAN_Metal]

Originally Posted by ApolloSki

Most of those are people either selling their cars or going FI. At least you can resell them at almost full value. Can't say the same for Ecutek.

This is very true. I used my tablet for over a year and a half and sold it for 50 dollars less than what I paid for it. It is an incredible value for what it is good at, NA tuning for common mods. It's definitely not as powerful or tuner friendly as Ecutek, however.

[ApolloSki]

Originally Posted by uRBAN_Metal

This is very true. I used my tablet for over a year and a half and sold it for 50 dollars less than what I paid for it. It is an incredible value for what it is good at, NA tuning for common mods. It's definitely not as powerful or tuner friendly as Ecutek, however.

I agree. I used my tablet for about a year as well and it worked great for me. Definitely cannot beat a custom dyno tune though, but still decently does the job.
I use my OFT as a monitoring system now until I decide to sell it. Its awesome how they keep coming out with new monitoring features.

[CSG Mike]

The irony here is that I dislike EcuTek, but I support it because there just isn't a better (affordable) tuning solution for the platform.

Sigh.

[Boofneenee]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

I would not be comfortable using a tune using the tables that are currently editable with OFT.

Your car, not mine.

Just as you sold your OFT, the sheer number of them for sale, used, should speak for itself.

Yout speaking a load of arrogant crap. Their are tuners that can use the OFT. If they can use romraider they can use the off. You see issues with people who use the oft for a few reasons . yes, it will occasionally have a problem and will require Shiv to fix, two the OFT is everywhere and very popular among the gt86 crowd. The more users the more of a chance a problem will occur and a thread pops up three, most users of OFT ,admittidely myself, are noobs. We noobs have a lot of questions and make up issues that usually get squashed. Like the guy who leaves his oft plugged in all night and wonders why the battery won't start the next day.

It had its limitations for sure but its a new tuning product and its growing. I hope some day it replaces ecutek because fuck licensing fees and its cheaper.

You pretty much dominate this Jackson thread and I enjoy reading your RD comments but this struck me in a way were I felt compelled to speak up.

[enivid]

I know a local guy that tried to tune his kw kit with oft, didn't work so well.

[ScionOfHorus]

Originally Posted by Boofneenee

Yout speaking a load of arrogant crap. Their are tuners that can use the OFT. If they can use romraider they can use the off. You see issues with people who use the oft for a few reasons . yes, it will occasionally have a problem and will require Shiv to fix, two the OFT is everywhere and very popular among the gt86 crowd. The more users the more of a chance a problem will occur and a thread pops up three, most users of OFT ,admittidely myself, are noobs. We noobs have a lot of questions and make up issues that usually get squashed. Like the guy who leaves his oft plugged in all night and wonders why the battery won't start the next day.

It had its limitations for sure but its a new tuning product and its growing. I hope some day it replaces ecutek because fuck licensing fees and its cheaper.

You pretty much dominate this Jackson thread and I enjoy reading your RD comments but this struck me in a way were I felt compelled to speak up.

He dominates the thread because he had more experience with the JRSC than everybody, barring JR themselves...

[kurbkilla]

Sorry if this was covered, I didn't see it.

Can you add the mishimoto cold air intake or any bumper intake to the jackson racing supercharger? Would it make a difference?

I know the kit is intercooler it just seems like you could get cleaner, cold air, then just having an open air filter in the engine bay.

[CSG David]

Originally Posted by kurbkilla

Sorry if this was covered, I didn't see it.

Can you add the mishimoto cold air intake or any bumper intake to the jackson racing supercharger? Would it make a difference?

I know the kit is intercooler it just seems like you could get cleaner, cold air, then just having an open air filter in the engine bay.

No. It does nothing special.