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Cross · 04-14-2015, 02:02 PM

Alright the Header is ready for pick up today, I had to sign for it so I had them hold it at a drop off location close to home.

Tonight I should be able to post pictures but I am also hoping to install my new LWFW and then get the transmission back in the car tonight as well.

Either way we should have hands on experience soon and I think I know where my Calipers are to measure things as well.

interna · 04-14-2015, 08:38 PM

@Cross interested in the fitment of this, keep us posted

Poodles · 04-14-2015, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kbye

If I create a painting and want to sell it for $200 bucks, then someone takes my painting, makes photocopies and sells it for $50 bucks, would I drop my original price to compete with my own copies? Eff that!

Not a fair comparison. Closer comparison is if someone was able to take a video of you making that painting and programming a robot to make the exact same painting over and over again.

Just like a photocopy is nothing like a painting, the equivalent would be if they were 3D printing this header out of plastic or something.

Regardless, has Nameless's header gone down in price at all since launch? Mass production and once tooling is paid for should mean prices dropping...

Cross · 04-14-2015, 09:37 PM

Here are pictures, even came with a secondary O2 spacer. Crap it says they are to big let me fix that. Also I can't find my calipers so I used a straight edge sorry.

Cross · 04-14-2015, 09:51 PM

Alright there are some pictures I will try to install them tonight but I still have to take the stock ones off after getting the trans in.

Canehda · 04-14-2015, 10:14 PM

Can't wait to hear your impressions on these! I had the nameless long tubes but i went to something else, now that I'm back in the market these have really caught my eye!

Dimman · 04-15-2015, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Poodles

Not a fair comparison. Closer comparison is if someone was able to take a video of you making that painting and programming a robot to make the exact same painting over and over again.

Just like a photocopy is nothing like a painting, the equivalent would be if they were 3D printing this header out of plastic or something.

Regardless, has Nameless's header gone down in price at all since launch? Mass production and once tooling is paid for should mean prices dropping...

Maybe more like a dude buys your quality detailed painting of a mountain in Switzerland that you had to travel to see and took multiple sittings to get the light right, done with fine oil paints, precise brush work on stretched canvas, copies it with cheap acrylic paint on ordinary paper with sloppy brush strokes and sells it for half price using your original as advertising...

wparsons · 04-15-2015, 08:20 AM

Is it just the picture, or is the flange surface as rough as it looks here??

nickw14 · 04-15-2015, 10:00 AM

Not to steer the thread off of its current topic but...
Am I the only one who looks at these and immediately thinks about heat issues? I've had exhaust heat trouble in the past with components past the manifold and this header just seems like... Well like it would melt something.

Shady195 · 04-15-2015, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickw14

Not to steer the thread off of its current topic but...
Am I the only one who looks at these and immediately thinks about heat issues? I've had exhaust heat trouble in the past with components past the manifold and this header just seems like... Well like it would melt something.

Oh I totally agree but as far as I know people are running them without to much of an issue? Aside from maybe higher engine temps with hard tracking..

I was more concerned about premature break down of the Serp belt given how close it is to the crank pulley.

JOSI · 04-15-2015, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickw14

Not to steer the thread off of its current topic but...
Am I the only one who looks at these and immediately thinks about heat issues? I've had exhaust heat trouble in the past with components past the manifold and this header just seems like... Well like it would melt something.

Nope.. Subpar materials... leaks/warping... JUNK.

Trefoil · 04-15-2015, 10:32 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but there looks like there's already corrosion on the part and the welds are not complete on the primary/flange interface. Why waste your money?

Cross · 04-15-2015, 10:38 AM

It's a sticky residue on all the flanges that's all.

I to was worried about heat but I have a good amount of header wrap so I'm going to use that.

I think there are some smaller things they could have made cleaner in the flanges but other than that they look fine to me compared to the other brands I have had in my possession. (Agency Power, OFH, Borla)

raven1231 · 04-15-2015, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Cross

It's a sticky residue on all the flanges that's all.

I to was worried about heat but I have a good amount of header wrap so I'm going to use that.

I think they're are sine smaller things they could have made cleaner in the flanges but other than that they look fine to me compared to the other brands I have had in my possession. (Agency Power, OFH, Borla)

This. Doesn't look bad considering price. It is shitty they copied but the product looks pretty decent.

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