Hope for a turbo in 2016?

[lionbacker54]

i think this is meant to be a joke, not a hoax. see where it talks about the rear seats being spacious and luxurious? blatant effort to say "see, we are kidding."

[OnkelC]

Turbo?

[BlueDubbinTDI]

Originally Posted by thill

LOL, a 2.5L turbo engine form Subaru.. Righhhhhttttt....

Even Subaru does not have an engine with those specs in any of their vehicles at this time..

I am surprised they did not claim AWD

Wut? Are you dumb? It's called a 2015 STI...

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by zigzagz94

I think the optimism comes from this video where at 1:34 he says "next two years, I will try to upgrade the performance every year. I promise". But those upgrades could be anything (lower weight, handling, etc.) except forced induction which he says he has no intentions of doing.

Ya, the whole thing is riddled with "I will try", "I would like too" and other such non committal statements.

[drewbot]

Why is this thread not locked yet?

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by donoman

@Tcoat from his video, all the talk about the '86 getting canceled becomes moot.

If I ever gave the impression that I thought it was going to be cancelled I apologise. Any debates I have had or BS info I cited were simply to make the case that unofficial statements are meaningless. In fact my whole point through those debates was that that we really just can't believe any of these stupid blog sites whether they say "yaaaa turbo next year" or "ohhh they lost so much money they are dropping it".
Again, even Tatda in the video doesn't say much more than "I would like" and "please wait".

[dnieves]

Originally Posted by Tromatic

Shame Mr. Tada does not own Toyota, Subaru and Scion, or at least have final say on what comes out of the factory.

Keep in mind if it weren't for Akio Toyoda (that's a D not a T) there's be no FT86. He's an avid racer and while taking the helm at Toyota asked where's the passion and excitement?! Luckily for us he thought the Sienna project leader was a good fit for the new sports car. The rest is history.

[nikitopo]

Tada San wanted to have small enhancements every year. Then they received reactions and complains from the customers. Truth is that customers don't like this. One reason might be that they don't want their cars to depreciate so fast. Other reason is that they don't want to worry of installing the new enhancements.

[dnieves]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

If I ever gave the impression that I thought it was going to be cancelled I apologise. Any debates I have had or BS info I cited were simply to make the case that unofficial statements are meaningless. In fact my whole point through those debates was that that we really just can't believe any of these stupid blog sites whether they say "yaaaa turbo next year" or "ohhh they lost so much money they are dropping it".
Again, even Tatda in the video doesn't say much more than "I would like" and "please wait".

Time will tell.... the twins may:


a. be the low volume niche car that lasts a hundred years... like the Z, Miata, and Corvette


or


b. be killed off due to sales.


There should be a continuous clip playing next to every twin on sale with Tada explaining what this car is/isn't. Should cut down on the FI and more power whine.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by dnieves

Time will tell.... the twins may:


a. be the low volume niche car that lasts a hundred years... like the Z, Miata, and Corvette


or


b. be killed off due to sales.


There should be a continuous clip playing next to every twin on sale with Tada explaining what this car is/isn't. Should cut down on the FI and more power whine.

c. Keep having performance watered down and the rest blinged up in an effort to appeal to a wider customer base until there is little left of the original car.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

c. Keep having performance watered down and the rest blinged up in an effort to appeal to a wider customer base until there is little left of the original car.

Oh you mean like the Z and Miata?

That's still option A.

Edit: Civic Si applies as well, maybe Mustang and Corvette, depends on your opinion of those cars.

(I'm sorry Mazda I love you and the NC)

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

Oh you mean like the Z and Miata?

That's still option A.

(I'm sorry Mazda I love you and the NC)

Ya, guess you are right. I just took a. a little further.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Ya, guess you are right. I just took a. a little further.

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[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

Actually sums up the situation perfectly doesn't it!