Who's tired of the "Pedal Dance" and wants to be in real control of their car? - Page 2 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

glamcem · 03-13-2015, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike

The elimination of datalogging makes this completely useless to any serious trackday or autocross enthusiast...

Does it eliminate the e-diff and EBD as well?

exactly what I thought, if someone can make a BT OBD2 adapter with this feature built in or make it adjustable via one of the datalogging software such as Torque app, I would buy it in a heartbeat

mav1178 · 03-13-2015, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by FT-86 SpeedFactory

I agree data logging parameters is important but you shouldn't need that every single event/session especially when time matters.

All tuning and everything else should be long sorted out before your important runs or session is made.

While true, I use my OBD-II port for two things:
1) Pivot gauge reading oil temp and coolant temp
2) AIM Solo DL configured to read 4 parameters: real-time lap temp, delta vs best previous lap time, coolant temp, and oil temp

The "when time matters" part is ESPECIALLY important to have AIM Solo or other real-time timing in place to help monitor lap times. I can't say how many people have the regular vs DL, but when I'm trying to push a personal best it's very useful to know which parts of the track I'm slower at in real time instead of downloading data in the pits.

As mentioned already, a Y-splitter won't work. I bought one and now have a $20 paperweight in my garage.

The pedal dance takes me about 10 seconds to do, 5 if I'm fast. YMMV.

-alex

Cockatoo · 03-13-2015, 02:11 PM

cough cough:

https://www.facebook.com/86nannycontroller

ATL BRZ · 03-13-2015, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Cockatoo

cough cough:

https://www.facebook.com/86nannycontroller

coughTHIScough

7thgear · 03-13-2015, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by FT-86 SpeedFactory

I agree data logging parameters is important but you shouldn't need that every single event/session especially when time matters.

All tuning and everything else should be long sorted out before your important runs or session is made.

You're generating a marketing "line" that is just not true.

mav1178 · 03-13-2015, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Cockatoo

cough cough:

https://www.facebook.com/86nannycontroller

I'd restrict discussion to products currently available for purchase. This, while great, isn't for sale yet... hell, I don't even know if it's a legit company or not aside from pictures and an email...

-alex

Cockatoo · 03-13-2015, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mav1178

I'd restrict discussion to products currently available for purchase. This, while great, isn't for sale yet... hell, I don't even know if it's a legit company or not aside from pictures and an email...

-alex

Not trying to ruffle any feathers... just letting people know there is a better product planned for the future

kster1 · 03-13-2015, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Cockatoo

cough cough:

https://www.facebook.com/86nannycontroller

I'll be watching this product. Being unable to use the Solo DL is a deal breaker for me.

continuecrushing · 03-13-2015, 05:03 PM

forum begs for device so we dont have to dance on pedals

after 2+ years, device presented.

forum bitches it doesn't make coffee

lol...at least we're going in the right direction

ddeflyer · 03-13-2015, 05:07 PM

<rant>
Unfortunately, the incompatibility of this product with the most common forms of data logging means that this product is unlikely to be used by the people who are justified and qualified to make use of it. I fear that this product will end up being a tool of the idiot who imagines their street car to be a race car after they slam it to the ground and do other inadvisable things to its suspension and then starts stuntin and splodin it on the streets.
</rant>

fatalelement · 03-13-2015, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ddeflyer

stuntin and splodin

Best phrase of 2015.

Can we get a "stuntin and splodin" official subforum or maybe just a t shirt

Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk

stugray · 03-13-2015, 05:55 PM

Very nice device and great price!

However.... countdown to reverse engineering ... 5, 4, 3......
(if I had my hands on one we would be at 0).

There is a unit available in Japan for $350 that was probably rev-engineered for this one (just a guess).

Once we know what OBD commands it sends/responds to, we can make a tactrix do it relatively quickly and would likely be able to continue logging.

CSG David · 03-13-2015, 06:06 PM

Or you can spend 2 seconds and do the pedal dance. Gawd...I hate moving after working out just my right leg and right arm.

sw20kosh · 03-13-2015, 06:15 PM

I HAVE to be able to use the solo DL. Can't use this thing.

03-13-2015, 05:07 PM	#24
ddeflyer Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Drives: BRZ Location: CA Posts: 564 Thanks: 99 Thanked 284 Times in 191 Posts Mentioned: 12 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	<rant> Unfortunately, the incompatibility of this product with the most common forms of data logging means that this product is unlikely to be used by the people who are justified and qualified to make use of it. I fear that this product will end up being a tool of the idiot who imagines their street car to be a race car after they slam it to the ground and do other inadvisable things to its suspension and then starts stuntin and splodin it on the streets. </rant> __________________ Fun car leads to autocross, autocross leads to track days, track days lead to lemons, lemons leads to racing school, racing school leads to spec Miata... No idea where it leads next!

03-13-2015, 06:15 PM	#28
sw20kosh Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2013 Black FR-S Location: SF Posts: 3,030 Thanks: 881 Thanked 2,014 Times in 990 Posts Mentioned: 153 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	I HAVE to be able to use the solo DL. Can't use this thing. __________________ 86DRIVE Challenge

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