CSG and RCE tag-team suspension Q&A thread! Ask us anything!

[shellslinger]

If I lower my FRS by 15mm, will I need new lca's?

Thanks!

[PandaBRZ]

Originally Posted by shellslinger

If I lower my FRS by 15mm, will I need new lca's?

Thanks!

You shouldn't with such a mild drop. You'll have some negative camber in the back so just get it aligned and zero out or minimize the toe.

[shellslinger]

Originally Posted by PandaBRZ

You shouldn't with such a mild drop. You'll have some negative camber in the back so just get it aligned and zero out or minimize the toe.

Sound good thanks

[was385]

Originally Posted by Kostamojen

Ok, got a hold of a 16mm WRX bar. It certainly helped, but the car still just feels a little to lethargic and still not quite balanced.

I'm contemplating two ideas currently:

1. Strano FSB, 16mm WRX RSB (current setup), Bilstein B8 shocks, Group-N front strut top mounts, RCE yellow front springs, RCE tarmac rear springs (I could "test" the spring combos seeing as I have yellows now, just get a set of tarmacs for testing)

2. Perrin 19mm adjustable FSB, Perrin 16mm adjustable RSB, Cusco Touring-A shocks, Group-N front strut top mounts, RCE Yellow front springs, RCE tarmac rear springs


Option #1 is basically zero adjustability minus swapping springs and swaybars. Option two gives a LOT of adjustability for fine tuning the cars balance.
Option #1 has more reliable shocks, the Cuscos in option 2 are an unknown quantity.
Option #2 costs about $500 more due to swaybars and more expensive shocks.

But for right now I'm probably OK for what I'm doing just not perfectly setup for what I'm looking to do.

Take this for what it's worth from someone who definitely isn't an expert but has gone through a similar path... you need more camber up front. I tried to make it work with just bolts but I just couldn't get the car to stop pushing in the corners (strano fan, bilsteins, tarmac springs). Ended up going from 1.3 to about 3.2 up front and now the car is almost completely neutral.

[Kostamojen]

Originally Posted by was385

Take this for what it's worth from someone who definitely isn't an expert but has gone through a similar path... you need more camber up front. I tried to make it work with just bolts but I just couldn't get the car to stop pushing in the corners (strano fan, bilsteins, tarmac springs). Ended up going from 1.3 to about 3.2 up front and now the car is almost completely neutral.

That really mostly solves corner entry push. I've had crazy camber before for autox purposes with my Impreza, it does help certain things but also compromises daily driving/real world driving. And yes, it can be adjusted back to normal numbers via the camber plates relatively easily.

I do wish there was a Group-N mount with an off-center location for little extra camber, but that probably will never happen due to the bushing design...

(Yes I'm aware of the Whiteline Com 'c" strut mounts, but they are shit)

[ajc209]

How do the RSR Sports i compare to the Bilstein B8 in terms of damper quality and Valving?

I like the look of the RSR for a daily driver thats see a bit of track time, but I wonder if the B8 with RCE spring would be just as good for less $$? I'm not that fussed about adjustability if the Bilsteins valved to be a good match for the RCE tarmacs.

Also, how do the Ohlin R&T compare to the RSR sports i? Is it immediately obvious to the average joe?

Not a huge difference in price here in the UK.....

[NissanGuy]

I've bought some wheels, 16x7 +60 (ish) offset. I'll be wanting 20mm spacers to make them (a) clear the front spring perch, and (b) look presentable. The wheels have an unusual 5x100 pattern with speedholes so it looks 10x100 (but isn't). Long story short, bolt-on spacers will fit even if the stock studs protrude slightly. These ones here are what I have in mind. A few quick forum searches didn't yield any helpful information: Would they hold up? Would I be better off with some other 20mm spacer?

I do like one canyon run a week and live in America so the pavement is no good. People seem pretty unanimous that slip-on spacer with studs is required for 5-15mm, but aside from that I don't see much definitive information. What would you recommend, if not the one I've chosen?

[Kostamojen]

Originally Posted by NissanGuy

I've bought some wheels, 16x7 +60 (ish) offset. I'll be wanting 20mm spacers to make them (a) clear the front spring perch, and (b) look presentable. The wheels have an unusual 5x100 pattern with speedholes so it looks 10x100 (but isn't). Long story short, bolt-on spacers will fit even if the stock studs protrude slightly.These ones here are what I have in mind. A few quick forum searches didn't yield any helpful information: Would they hold up? Would I be better off with some other 20mm spacer?

I do like one canyon run a week and live in America so the pavement is no good. People seem pretty unanimous that slip-on spacer with studs is required for 5-15mm, but aside from that I don't see much definitive information. What would you recommend, if not the one I've chosen?

I'm pretty sure most people here wouldn't recommend to do that at all...

[gramicci101]

I have Corner3Garage 20/25mm spacers. They've held up just fine so far. I installed them June of 14.

[Porcupint]

Originally Posted by Kostamojen

That really mostly solves corner entry push. I've had crazy camber before for autox purposes with my Impreza, it does help certain things but also compromises daily driving/real world driving. And yes, it can be adjusted back to normal numbers via the camber plates relatively easily.

I do wish there was a Group-N mount with an off-center location for little extra camber, but that probably will never happen due to the bushing design...

(Yes I'm aware of the Whiteline Com 'c" strut mounts, but they are shit)

Is this what you're looking for?

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83996

[Kostamojen]

Originally Posted by Porcupint

Is this what you're looking for?

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83996

No, those are just Group-N part numbers... Im quite familiar with that whole catalog.

[Porcupint]

Originally Posted by Kostamojen

No, those are just Group-N part numbers... Im quite familiar with that whole catalog.

Ah ok. Saw 'group-n' and wasn't quite sure. Was worth a shot.

[x1UP]

How do you guys feel about Godspeed's Mono Max coilovers? I was looking at them and they seem to do a good job. I was thinking about buying them. Any thoughts or reviews? Any help is appreciated!

[was385]

Originally Posted by x1UP

How do you guys feel about Godspeed's Mono Max coilovers? I was looking at them and they seem to do a good job. I was thinking about buying them. Any thoughts or reviews? Any help is appreciated!

I had someone swear to me on a FB group that they decreased his times by 4 seconds on a 60-second autox course when compared to Konis.... so they must be f'ing amazing!