Vorshlag LSX kit

[Sammakko]

Originally Posted by Dephective

^ I recently came across a 20b Cosmo rotary and considered it for a swap. Initially was going to purchase another FD chassis. Who knows what I'm gonna do with it lol.

OP what motor are you gonna end up with? Also, are they going to be reproducing the swap parts and if so what would the price on something like this be?

keep the rotarys out of good cars please. every oil change is 10% of your useable life lolol.

[Bawlz]

Originally Posted by civicdrivr

Wow. Color me jelly.

Originally Posted by Jaden

i remember posting that you could get a stripped twin for 5-6K and then a wrecked camaro for 8-9.

You're looking at a total for a 420 hp car of 25K and then add an e-force supercharger and you've got a 600hp carb legal twin weighing less than 3Klbs for 35K...

And people try to say that the twins aren't the best bang for buck out there...lol

Jaden

You can probably find one in that range if you look enough. Auction ended at $3900 with $200 auction fee & delivered for $600.

A wrecked Camaro, I've seen a few go for $6k-9k but they're more common than the twins.
I'm looking at an L99 & 6L90e in an automatic Camaro sitting in a junk yard for $6500, so if I can part it out for = to a fitting transmission.
$4700+6500+7500(kit)=$18,700 to have the car together. Then I'll need to find some Recaros & fit a Nexus 7 into it or something so I'll be looking at a $20k 400HP/TQ sub 2800 pound twin! Much better than buying a new one.

[Jaden]

Originally Posted by Bawlz

You can probably find one in that range if you look enough. Auction ended at $3900 with $200 auction fee & delivered for $600.

A wrecked Camaro, I've seen a few go for $6k-9k but they're more common than the twins.
I'm looking at an L99 & 6L90e in an automatic Camaro sitting in a junk yard for $6500, so if I can part it out for = to a fitting transmission.
$4700+6500+7500(kit)=$18,700 to have the car together. Then I'll need to find some Recaros & fit a Nexus 7 into it or something so I'll be looking at a $20k 400HP/TQ sub 2800 pound twin! Much better than buying a new one.

The 6l90e is rated to handle 900 lb/ft of torque, so while the l99 is tuned a little lower than the ls3, it still, I think, is the way to go.

If you can get a way for the 6l90e to fit, it may be better for high power than the manual.

And like I said, the carb tune for the e-force takes it to 600 hp ~.

Jaden

p.s. as far as derailing his thread, how in the fuck is talking about using the vorshlag kit with a camaro and the cost DERAILING his thread?? Talk about butt hurt...

[Bawlz]

Originally Posted by Jaden

The 6l90e is rated to handle 900 lb/ft of torque, so while the l99 is tuned a little lower than the ls3, it still, I think, is the way to go.

If you can get a way for the 6l90e to fit, it may be better for high power than the manual.

And like I said, the carb tune for the e-force takes it to 600 hp ~.

Jaden

p.s. as far as derailing his thread, how in the fuck is talking about using the vorshlag kit with a camaro and the cost DERAILING his thread?? Talk about butt hurt...

The L99 takes to mods similar to an LS3, but has AFM & Cylinder deactivation. I'm going to be happy with a stock LS engine in mine, but modding an LS3 or L99 is very easy.
As for fitting the 6l90e, it'll fit in a 66 Mustang with some work but I have my doubts about it in a FT86. Even if the tunnel is 'massaged'

[Jaden]

Originally Posted by Bawlz

The L99 takes to mods similar to an LS3, but has AFM & Cylinder deactivation. I'm going to be happy with a stock LS engine in mine, but modding an LS3 or L99 is very easy.
As for fitting the 6l90e, it'll fit in a 66 Mustang with some work but I have my doubts about it in a FT86. Even if the tunnel is 'massaged'

I keep going back and forth in my mind as to whether I want to do the L99 or a 3.5 ecoboost...

With the ecoboost, it's already twin turbo, and with the ford GT moving to it with ~600 hp I would think that there might be some bigger DI's available in the near future for it too, although I don't want to think about what they would cost...lol.

Plus I have done some preliminary measurements and I think it may very well be possible to put the entire rear end assembly of the Camaro in the twins with just a simple adapter plate, although body fab would be necessary for the 6 inches wider it would be...

Jaden

[philooo]

any news on the LSX kit ? pricing ?

[Squishy]

Even if they got the kit completed on the OP's car today, it would take some time for the parts to get fabbed in quantities for purchase. Plus I would wager once they finish the OP's car I would rather wait on his testing real world to see what else breaks next Good example is with v8 monster miatas that were having problems with bracing cracking welds for the power being put down. They had to fab different suspension parts to handle the increased power.

Maybe end of the year we might hear something.

[Bawlz]

Originally Posted by Jaden

I keep going back and forth in my mind as to whether I want to do the L99 or a 3.5 ecoboost...

With the ecoboost, it's already twin turbo, and with the ford GT moving to it with ~600 hp I would think that there might be some bigger DI's available in the near future for it too, although I don't want to think about what they would cost...lol.

Plus I have done some preliminary measurements and I think it may very well be possible to put the entire rear end assembly of the Camaro in the twins with just a simple adapter plate, although body fab would be necessary for the 6 inches wider it would be...

Jaden

I'd love to do a 3.5L ecoboost swap, but Ford hasn't released a control pack for the engine yet & it would use the v6 Mustang Auto/Manual transmissions.
I've seen Taurus SHO's making 500+ HP using meth & some forged upgrades just in case & the SHO's Ecoboost is smaller than the F150's.

If you really want a twin turbo you can use the LFX Twin Turbo v6 which would fit similar to an LS3, but finding a CTS-V would be near impossible & a crate motor would be very expensive.

[inertia]

Wow it is pretty concerning with the kit taking this long. Does anyone know the actual time that has been spent on making this kit?

[s2d4]

Originally Posted by inertia

Wow it is pretty concerning with the kit taking this long. Does anyone know the actual time that has been spent on making this kit?

Who cares if they get it right, the weapon car grenade camp should tell you that.
If you are actually interested and ready to buy with actual money, you would've got in touch with them by now?

[civicdrivr]

@inertia check out Vorshlags blog on this build. They moved to a new location and have had to send the headers back to the manufacturer multiple times just so they can get it perfected for production. They mentioned numerous times that if they weren't making production pieces out of this, it would have been done months ago. But they want it done right and as easily as possible so someone like you or I can do this swap on our own.

It's also nice knowing that they are trying to keep the OEM CANBUS functionality, unlike the WGP car which didn't have a functioning gauge cluster and who knows what else.

Sent from my XT1095

[Jaden]

Originally Posted by Bawlz

I'd love to do a 3.5L ecoboost swap, but Ford hasn't released a control pack for the engine yet & it would use the v6 Mustang Auto/Manual transmissions.
I've seen Taurus SHO's making 500+ HP using meth & some forged upgrades just in case & the SHO's Ecoboost is smaller than the F150's.

If you really want a twin turbo you can use the LFX Twin Turbo v6 which would fit similar to an LS3, but finding a CTS-V would be near impossible & a crate motor would be very expensive.

I'm a few years away from doing any swap, so now it is just planning stages. I would hope that Ford would release a control pack for the 3.5 ecoboost by the time I'm ready to do it.

I'm also looking at an AWD sequential transaxle to use with the ecoboost if I go that route.

Lots of fab but if it's doable, it will be SOO worth it.

imagine 500+hp AWD at about 2800lbs???

Jaden

[hmong337]

Originally Posted by Jaden

I'm a few years away from doing any swap, so now it is just planning stages. I would hope that Ford would release a control pack for the 3.5 ecoboost by the time I'm ready to do it.

I'm also looking at an AWD sequential transaxle to use with the ecoboost if I go that route.

Lots of fab but if it's doable, it will be SOO worth it.

imagine 500+hp AWD at about 2800lbs???

Jaden

Just get an evo8/9 ahah. Making a brz/frs awd is like making an evo or sti rwd. They both don't sit well with me. To each their own i suppose.

[civicdrivr]

Originally Posted by Jaden

imagine 500+hp AWD at about 2800lbs???

Imagine twice that power

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79708