openflash tablet vs ecutek tune

[Xero-Limit]

Originally Posted by Shiv@Openflash

I would wager that there are now more FI cars running OFT than any other tuning device. That's due to sheer the number of SBD turbo, Vortech and Phantom ESC kits on the roads, most of which run the OFT.

Wow, bold statement indeed. I guess that imported Taiwanese Greddy kit knockoffs, Vortech, and a low budget ESC kit rival the numbers that Kraftwerks, Jackson Racing, Innovate (though now Sprintex), and pretty much every independent tuning shop that makes a turbo kit (ptuning, JDL, fullblown....) who uses EcuTek by default? I'd like to see something to back that up too.

Originally Posted by OkieSnuffBox

Several years? These cars haven't even been for sale for 3 years.

EDIT: Not to mention, do you have any market data to say that EcuTek has that market cornered?

...almost 3 years. They've been out since spring/early summer 2012

[Koa]

bout to be a tuner rumbleeeeee

[D_Thissen]

This is gonna be good.. Sub'd!

[brz23]

thanks for the input guys!

[Shiv@Openflash]

Originally Posted by moto-mike

Wow, bold statement indeed. I guess that imported Taiwanese Greddy kit knockoffs, Vortech, and a low budget ESC kit rival the numbers that Kraftwerks, Jackson Racing, Innovate (though now Sprintex), and pretty much every independent tuning shop that makes a turbo kit (ptuning, JDL, fullblown....) who uses EcuTek by default? I'd like to see something to back that up too.




...almost 3 years. They've been out since spring/early summer 2012

I stated that I "would wager" that there are more OFTs in FI cars than there are not. This is based upon knowing how many OFTs we have provided to those running SBD, Phantom and Vortech kits. I would put that number somewhere north of 200 which is still less than 5% of all OFT users. But, as is the case with bets, there is always a possibility that I could be wrong. But I don't think so. No reason to get upset about it. If you beg to differ, it is noted

[VroomVroom86]

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[continuecrushing]

Sorry I'm late, I was sharpening my pitch fork

[Circuit Motorsports]

Originally Posted by themajesticone

The general consensus is that Ecutek is much more widely used to custom tune (particularly for FI) because of its vast capabilities, however, tuners still hate tuning with Ecutek.

Just curious what makes you think tuners hate tuning with EcuTek?

I think tuning with EcuTek is awesome, with all of the features, power, and capabilities the solution provides to me for tuning. All the tuners I know that have used EcuTek are also very fond of the EcuTek tuning solution.

- Bob

[themajesticone]

Originally Posted by Circuit Motorsports

Just curious what makes you think tuners hate tuning with EcuTek?

I think tuning with EcuTek is awesome, with all of the features, power, and capabilities the solution provides to me for tuning. All the tuners I know that have used EcuTek are also very fond of the EcuTek tuning solution.

- Bob

My statement was a bit of a reach and a bit general/vague, I will admit that. (to clarify) Mostly from what I have gathered over the past 2 years of ownership is that Ecutek is a great overall tool objectively but is also a pain in the ass to work with in terms of licensing and all that is attached to it, if that makes sense. Perhaps I am completely wrong though

[Struckbylitenin]

Originally Posted by VroomVroom86

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[alonsoglz7]

sooooo???


which is better?? sounds like a bunch of politicians lol

[Andrew025]

Originally Posted by alonsoglz7

sooooo???


which is better?? sounds like a bunch of politicians lol

There isn't a black or white answer for this.
I normally hate saying this, but use the search function/Google to look at what each tuning solution offers and whether or not it fits your wants/needs for your car/mods.

[xuimod]

Originally Posted by Shiv@Openflash

Peak hp gains will vary due to variance between cars, dynos and testing conditions. But usually expect a max gain of 10-15hp at high RPM (~7400) and a considerable improvement in torque between 2500-4000rpm. Our OTS maps pretty much redue the size of the infamous torque dip by 50% which makes for a much more responsive and drivable car.

Cheers
shiv

I know your trying to sell your product and make a sales pitch and put your product in the best possible light but that's not really true. For me, the torque dip was still very much present after I applied the OFT tune.

Btw OP, don't believe everything vendors tell you. Bottom line, they are trying to sell you a product. I've seen it many times from vendors here (oh, our turbo kit is super easy to install when the reality is its not that easy for a first timer).

Here is my dyno with E85 and the EL E85 tune. Big torque dip was still there.

[xuimod]

Originally Posted by alonsoglz7

sooooo???


which is better?? sounds like a bunch of politicians lol

They are lots of vendors on this site who are trying to sell their product. So they will present their product in the best possible light, making positive blanket statements about their product even though the positive statements may not apply to your car.

So yeah, these vendors are like politicians. Politicians twist the truth and make promises to get your vote. Vendors twist the truth and make promises to get your dollar.

EDIT: personally I think Ecutek is better. OFT feels a bit like a hacked solution, desktop software is buggy as hell. Open Flash Manager worked on one of my laptops but not the other. Rom Raider didn't work on either laptop. Getting Virtual Dyno to work with OFT is almost impossible (I never got it to work).

Sales and support for OFT seems like its one guy (Shiv). I know they have more employees but everything goes through Shiv it seems (it seems even level 1 support which is sort of ridiculous).

And I'm willing to bet most tuner shops out there are much more familiar with Ecutek because its a more established and more fleshed out tuning solution. Sure they could get to learn OFT but first they need to get the software to work on their computers (which isn't guaranteed) and then they have to learn OFT. Granted the learning curve is probably very gentle but its still there.