2016 GT86 Toyota Press Release, 86 "style Cb"

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Marx

What makes you think there's 50HP just lying around to add in? The most impressive NA gains around here have been about 40HP, and that's removing the cat from the header and running E85, neither of which are options for retail sale. Lower compression internals and a small turbo would get you there but that will bump sticker way more than $3k. What other option is there, research, dev and implementation of an FA23 or FA25 engine?

You will find that many of the "they can just do XXX" crowd do not seem to understand that car companies have to meet multiple emissions and safety requirements, they actually have to pay to develop, that line changes or interruptions cost millions, one change to the engine can mean changes all through the vehicle and that a few people that want XXX just can't be catered to for economic reasons! They seem to think car companies are not for profit charities that exist solely to make what they want and screw everybody else!

[airjonny]

...So they have money to make this car look like a bootleg Jaguar XK, but dialing out torque dip is going to put it in BMW range...got it.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by airjonny

...So they have money to make this car look like a bootleg Jaguar XK, but dialing out torque dip is going to put it in BMW range...got it.

You will pay a lot more for that bootleg Jag!

[UtahSleeper]

Originally Posted by airjonny

...So they have money to make this car look like a bootleg Jaguar XK, but dialing out torque dip is going to put it in BMW range...got it.

Guess I don't push my car very hard, cause I still have not experienced the dip........but maybe thats cause I am not sure what I am looking for.

All I have ever cared is:
-Do I like to look at the car?
-Am I having fun driving it?

If those requirements are met, I dont really care about the finer details until I am actually modding the car.

[MokSpeed]

Looks like my 2014 is about to see a giant boost in resale value!

[Tromatic]

Originally Posted by airjonny

...So they have money to make this car look like a bootleg Jaguar XK, but dialing out torque dip is going to put it in BMW range...got it.

LOL. The dip is 1k wide. How hard is it to drive outside it? And it is there just to piss people off, as well.

ETA: You can get the software to edit and flash your ECU for exactly zero bucks.

Originally Posted by Dezoris

This car needs more body kit editions.

If they were serious about keeping this car in the lineup, they would let you mix and match and custom order your car. Not sure I'd pay 35K for an FR-S, though. When Scion does a RBR (Rocket Bozo Release) we will know the car is dead.

[airjonny]

Originally Posted by Tromatic

LOL. The dip is 1k wide. How hard is it to drive outside it?



If they were serious about keeping this car in the lineup, they would let you mix and match and custom order your car. Not sure I'd pay 35K for an FR-S, though. When Scion does a RBR (Rocket Bozo Release) we will know the car is dead.

It's right in the middle and more than just 1k. I can't drive it like I stole it everyday.

[Quentin]

Originally Posted by Marx

What makes you think there's 50HP just lying around to add in? The most impressive NA gains around here have been about 40HP, and that's removing the cat from the header and running E85, neither of which are options for retail sale. Lower compression internals and a small turbo would get you there but that will bump sticker way more than $3k. What other option is there, research, dev and implementation of an FA23 or FA25 engine?

Having just spent 10 days in Japan, this car will never see a 4 cyl engine over 2.0L, IMO. To me, this was a car designed for the Japanese market first and foremost. Over there, this is a very quick, affordable car.

[Tromatic]

Originally Posted by airjonny

It's right in the middle and more than just 1k. I can't drive it like I stole it everyday.

It's really not that hard.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by airjonny

It's right in the middle and more than just 1k. I can't drive it like I stole it everyday.

Have you tried driving around it? It is actually very easy to do without hammering the car.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by MokSpeed

Looks like my 2014 is about to see a giant boost in resale value!

You did get that it is a special edition right?
The normal ones will have minor tweaks once again.
I stand to be corrected but I think the top part of the press release speaks to the normal GTs and the bottom the Cb. If I am right and have deciphered the bad translating the 16s have a minor steering change and yet again something with the suspension and some cosmetic interior changes.

[airjonny]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Have you tried driving around it? It is actually very easy to do without hammering the car.

No not really. I've driven it only a handful of times being a DD for my friend.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by airjonny

No not really. I've driven it only a handful of times being a DD for my friend.

You can very quickly figure out how at miniumize it's impact.
Now of course if you are doing any kind of racing then it has more of an impact but if you are doing timed races with a stock FRS you are pretty much doomed from the start.

[airjonny]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

You can very quickly figure out how at miniumize it's impact.
Now of course if you are doing any kind of racing then it has more of an impact but if you are doing timed races with a stock FRS you are pretty much doomed from the start.

Interesting. When I have one of my own soonish, I'll have more time to figure it out.