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PowderfaceTr. · 02-10-2015, 11:12 PM

Fitment just confirmed we are also swapping the tranny to a g50 into the back with a custom Kevlar torque tube.

Found these guys. http://www.subarugears.com/

There are thousands of enthusiasts who regret never completing or even starting the project of their dreams. There are few who ever regret finishing one.

FT911 · 02-11-2015, 12:21 AM

I've been thinking about this for years now. I want to see this. Good luck!

anajri · 02-19-2015, 11:07 AM

what is the hp rating or tq rating

this could be a great solution for us that what more power but do not want the supra 6 speed cost

PowderfaceTr. · 02-20-2015, 07:19 PM

500 ft/lbs

FT911 · 02-24-2015, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by PowderfaceTr.

500 ft/lbs

Since the G50 is designed for rear engine, wouldn't flipping it the other way reverse the gears as well?

If so, how are you/did you get around that?

Of course I could be wrong or missing something.

themadscientist · 02-25-2015, 12:06 AM

If I understand the linked site correctly, the gears are reverse cut so it rotates backwards.

FT911 · 02-25-2015, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by themadscientist

If I understand the linked site correctly, the gears are reverse cut so it rotates backwards.

Oh okay cool. Thanks.

cdrazic93 · 02-25-2015, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by themadscientist

If I understand the linked site correctly, the gears are reverse cut so it rotates backwards.

That would be correct.

My middle school math teacher did this when he swapped an EJ207 into a VW vanagon. He outsourced it to someone in australia though.

sprintamx · 02-25-2015, 06:15 PM

That doesn't look like an M96 motor. 993 or 964 variant?

Actually, it looks like an older Carrera motor without twin plugs.

PowderfaceTr. · 02-25-2015, 08:51 PM

Pic is just proof of theory. Its 84' air cooled carerra 3.2 and that's not a G50 its connected to. My shaft design is longer. XD

People with V8 ideas have no clue how the gyroscopic effect of the engine hinders cornering. Feel how hard it is to corner a 1300cc bike versus a 600cc bike.

The porsche motor weighs a tad more but its evenly distributed rotating mass along the whole chassis. This allow it to have steering closer to that of a MR car.

This project will cost 20 grand installed and about 40 hour Fab time. Torque curve is flat. More reliable than a front heavy compound turbo/roots FA20. Its the only thing worth doing to this car. Think about how the little traction this car has. Small displacement High output FI engines are undrinkable. What this car needs is more rear weight and low RPM powerband. Its gonna drive like a 40 grand SLR BENZ.

D K · 02-25-2015, 09:49 PM

There is a big Grand Canyon size gap between proof of theory and reality.

You would have to flip the trans around to be able to use it in a F/MR configuration.

I do have a G50/01 for sale if you would like to experiment though.

D

PowderfaceTr. · 02-26-2015, 07:04 PM

LOL it would be too low to flip it upside down. I was just gonna run custom cams and reverse the firing order.

ATL BRZ · 05-15-2015, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PowderfaceTr.

Fitment just confirmed we are also swapping the tranny to a g50 into the back with a custom Kevlar torque tube.

Found these guys. http://www.subarugears.com/

There are thousands of enthusiasts who regret never completing or even starting the project of their dreams. There are few who ever regret finishing one.

Bump.

Any updates or pictures????

Ganthrithor · 06-21-2015, 05:36 AM

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02-10-2015, 11:12 PM	#1
PowderfaceTr. Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: stock Location: ALBERTA CANADA Posts: 117 Thanks: 31 Thanked 81 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	M96 04 Fitment just confirmed we are also swapping the tranny to a g50 into the back with a custom Kevlar torque tube. Found these guys. http://www.subarugears.com/ There are thousands of enthusiasts who regret never completing or even starting the project of their dreams. There are few who ever regret finishing one. __________________ Advice On Proper Fundamentals of Japanese Motor Vehicle Feel free to ask.

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PowderfaceTr. Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: stock Location: ALBERTA CANADA Posts: 117 Thanks: 31 Thanked 81 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	500 ft/lbs __________________ Advice On Proper Fundamentals of Japanese Motor Vehicle Feel free to ask.

02-25-2015, 08:51 PM	#10
PowderfaceTr. Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: stock Location: ALBERTA CANADA Posts: 117 Thanks: 31 Thanked 81 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Pic is just proof of theory. Its 84' air cooled carerra 3.2 and that's not a G50 its connected to. My shaft design is longer. XD People with V8 ideas have no clue how the gyroscopic effect of the engine hinders cornering. Feel how hard it is to corner a 1300cc bike versus a 600cc bike. The porsche motor weighs a tad more but its evenly distributed rotating mass along the whole chassis. This allow it to have steering closer to that of a MR car. This project will cost 20 grand installed and about 40 hour Fab time. Torque curve is flat. More reliable than a front heavy compound turbo/roots FA20. Its the only thing worth doing to this car. Think about how the little traction this car has. Small displacement High output FI engines are undrinkable. What this car needs is more rear weight and low RPM powerband. Its gonna drive like a 40 grand SLR BENZ. __________________ Advice On Proper Fundamentals of Japanese Motor Vehicle Feel free to ask. Last edited by PowderfaceTr.; 02-25-2015 at 09:07 PM.

02-26-2015, 07:04 PM	#12
PowderfaceTr. Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: stock Location: ALBERTA CANADA Posts: 117 Thanks: 31 Thanked 81 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	LOL it would be too low to flip it upside down. I was just gonna run custom cams and reverse the firing order. __________________ Advice On Proper Fundamentals of Japanese Motor Vehicle Feel free to ask.

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anajri Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: GT86 Location: santo domingo Posts: 63 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	what is the hp rating or tq rating this could be a great solution for us that what more power but do not want the supra 6 speed cost

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sprintamx Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Drives: 2013 BRZ Location: Mid-Atlantic Posts: 128 Thanks: 26 Thanked 51 Times in 29 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	That doesn't look like an M96 motor. 993 or 964 variant? Actually, it looks like an older Carrera motor without twin plugs.

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D K Stig's dark passenger Join Date: Dec 2013 Drives: FR-S Location: I work abroad Posts: 724 Thanks: 60 Thanked 316 Times in 186 Posts Mentioned: 20 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	There is a big Grand Canyon size gap between proof of theory and reality. You would have to flip the trans around to be able to use it in a F/MR configuration. I do have a G50/01 for sale if you would like to experiment though. D

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