Full throttle Electric Supercharger Build Thread

[FingR-S]

Originally Posted by DAEMANO

I'm glad that you asked. So I have a bit of a story.

About 3 weeks ago, I was the lucky recipient of Prius headbutt to my rear bumper on the 5 freeway. Soooo, after many talks with the insurance company and the auto-body shop, the car is repaired ($7k damage ($2k belonged to the CF trunk and TRD exhaust)). So, I finally got my car back on Friday. The next morning I hopped out of bed and re-installed my newly upgraded ESC. Flashed back to the Phantom ESC tune on my OFT and took it for a test drive. Drove it for another 2-3 hours since then to acclimate myself to the new hardware and gather my thoughts.

Relevant stuff:
2013 - 6MT FR-S Base running on e85
OpenFlashTablet ESC e85 OTS tune
TQ250-24v
Aux charger
1.5x all Powersonic battery array (will upgrade to Odyssey soon)
OEM ELH w/ Cat deleted
TRD-USA Catback
Partial Throttle Switch upgrade set to factory position
235/40/18 Dunlop Direzza DZ102
18x8.5 et45 WedsSport SA10-Rs

Impressions:
It's all about area under the curve.

The new lighter compressor wheel, partial throttle switch, and controller software add so much mid-range punch combined with my already punchy e85/catless header setup, the feeling is now much more like the "bigger motor" feeling of a belt driven supercharger. I might be getting just a pinch more WHP/WTQ than the previous ESC but that's not what this ugprade is about. It's really about how much more power that is available in the mid-range. In linearity, it is just a hair short of a belt driven charger, so very close, but did I mention that the re-install took me about 1 hour? To compare, the power delivery of my car is much more linear and smooth than my GFs turbocharged Fiat Abarth.

What this adds up to is a visceral almost hot-rod like shove in gears 1-3 anytime at I'm at part throttle above 3k RPM. I mean, the car is already fun, but something very special is happening now. In all gears part throttle results in speed, lots of it. It's freaking great. As with any powerful motor, there is a learning curve to respect, but that's part of the fun. I'd say the car has bite to match it's bark without having to crack the throttle wide-open.

An unanticipated bonus is that 6th gear is now especially usable as a cruising gear. Part throttle in 6th results in a pass on the hwy. The old man in me can appreciate this.

To sum it up, i've been running my Phantom ESC since last February. During that time, I've seen several upgrades as Rob continues to develop this technology. Shiv has improved his tunes and engine management software as well. There's power everywhere in the rev range that matches the growl of my gnarly exhaust. I love it. To everyone that has had to wait for their kits, I'd say this is THE version of the Phantom ESC you want from day one unless you have some mitigating factor that requires WOT activation only. I still can't believe all of this is available for so little money. Quality, simplicity, reliability, power. So fucking future. If I had to finish up with one word, I'd say, it's polish. The new kit feels extremely polished.

Thanks @Robftss @Shiv@Openflash @fenton @Sojhinn @Gary in NJ @WRB5titch (for the moral support, haha)

As usual, if anyone has a question or pic request, please ask.

Thanks for sharing that DAEMANO! I PM'd Rob about what would the upgrade cost be for this since I have the previous 1.5 version - didn't hear back about that. (did I miss the answer to that on here somewhere?) If you or any of the new users know, please let me know. I can email Rob directly in any case.
I like the idea of the partial throttle switch and the linearity based on your experience with this update.

[DAEMANO]

Originally Posted by FingR-S

Thanks for sharing that DAEMANO! I PM'd Rob about what would the upgrade cost be for this since I have the previous 1.5 version - didn't hear back about that. (did I miss the answer to that on here somewhere?) If you or any of the new users know, please let me know. I can email Rob directly in any case.
I like the idea of the partial throttle switch and the linearity based on your experience with this update.

This upgrade I love even more than the 1.5x. Still, both upgrades work together to make that "bigger motor" feel.

For and upgrade send an email to @Robftss for sure. That should do the trick. He'll give you the cost and shipping info. After you're upgraded, I'd love to hear what you think.

[Target70]

it seems like those bullet connectors are ok in the long run once set up properly, but not exactly fool proof. I wonder about using a locking connector block instead of 3 individual connectors. A mil spec cannon plug would be awesome.

[Sojhinn]

Originally Posted by Target70

it seems like those bullet connectors are ok in the long run once set up properly, but not exactly fool proof. I wonder about using a locking connector block instead of 3 individual connectors. A mil spec cannon plug would be awesome.

Knowing rob and some of the issues with the bullet connectors I wouldn't be surprised if an upgrade may happen in the future.

[l0aded]

Yeah I might try using electrical tape and sealing the connection together hoping it doesn't melt. Before I used a zip tie but I assume it wasn't enough.

[ShadowTS]

Hello guys, I've tried to contact both Robftss and fenton via PMs to ask for the shipping price to Europe (Italy), and to be eventually put on the waiting list if the total price shipped will be ok. But no one replied to my PMs

I know I'm not very active on this forum, but I'm reading it since its creation date, and I joined only recently because I still don't have the car (but it will come in about 15 days ).

Is there any chance to get a quote for the ESC + shipping to Italy, and to get on the waiting list?

[Sojhinn]

Originally Posted by ShadowTS

Hello guys, I've tried to contact both Robftss and fenton via PMs to ask for the shipping price to Europe (Italy), and to be eventually put on the waiting list if the total price shipped will be ok. But no one replied to my PMs

I know I'm not very active on this forum, but I'm reading it since its creation date, and I joined only recently because I still don't have the car (but it will come in about 15 days ).

Is there any chance to get a quote for the ESC + shipping to Italy, and to get on the waiting list?

I think rob is hesitant to ship to Europe right now. Either way there is a pretty deep wait list right now. When did you contact him?

[Gums]

Originally Posted by ShadowTS

Hello guys, I've tried to contact both Robftss and fenton via PMs to ask for the shipping price to Europe (Italy)

Is there any chance to get a quote for the ESC + shipping to Italy, and to get on the waiting list?

Shipping won't be expensive, mine was around $100USD to Australia, if I remember correctly.

As the ESC is still in development pricing may change due to improvements/currency exchange rates etc by the time your kit is supplied.

If you have asked Rob to put you on the waiting list he would have included you. He sent me an invoice when ready to ship.

[ShadowTS]

Thanks for the clarification, I'm fine if the shipping cost is some hunder dollars, I'll also have to pay the customs here, which will raise the cost of some other hundreds euro.
I'm also already aware of the waiting list since I've red almost all the topic during last years.
My only concern is he havn't either replied to my PM, how do I know if I was added to the waiting list? I've sent him the PM on Jan 13.

[Gums]

Originally Posted by ShadowTS

My only concern is he havn't either replied to my PM, how do I know if I was added to the waiting list? I've sent him the PM on Jan 13.

Rob is super busy from my understanding, maybe PM Fenton requesting he post an updated waiting list or check on your listing?

[fenton]

Originally Posted by Gums

Rob is super busy from my understanding, maybe PM Fenton requesting he post an updated waiting list or check on your listing?

Originally Posted by ShadowTS

Thanks for the clarification, I'm fine if the shipping cost is some hunder dollars, I'll also have to pay the customs here, which will raise the cost of some other hundreds euro.
I'm also already aware of the waiting list since I've red almost all the topic during last years.
My only concern is he havn't either replied to my PM, how do I know if I was added to the waiting list? I've sent him the PM on Jan 13.

Originally Posted by Gums

Shipping won't be expensive, mine was around $100USD to Australia, if I remember correctly.

As the ESC is still in development pricing may change due to improvements/currency exchange rates etc by the time your kit is supplied.

If you have asked Rob to put you on the waiting list he would have included you. He sent me an invoice when ready to ship.

Originally Posted by Sojhinn

I think rob is hesitant to ship to Europe right now. Either way there is a pretty deep wait list right now. When did you contact him?

Originally Posted by ShadowTS

Hello guys, I've tried to contact both Robftss and fenton via PMs to ask for the shipping price to Europe (Italy), and to be eventually put on the waiting list if the total price shipped will be ok. But no one replied to my PMs

I know I'm not very active on this forum, but I'm reading it since its creation date, and I joined only recently because I still don't have the car (but it will come in about 15 days ).

Is there any chance to get a quote for the ESC + shipping to Italy, and to get on the waiting list?

Hey guys....sorry I have been very busy as well helping Rob with the latest orders.

I did get your PM Shadow. Right now Rob is filling orders from May/June of last year....being that your PM is in January you will have quite a wait ahead of you.

Anyone wondering if they have been placed on the list...if you have PMd Rob you are on the list....he goes by order of PMs received. He logs in every couple weeks and replys to list requests.

Rob has not shipped any orders to Europe yet...I'm not sure his exact plans with this region.

Thanks

[ShadowTS]

Originally Posted by fenton

Hey guys....sorry I have been very busy as well helping Rob with the latest orders.

I did get your PM Shadow. Right now Rob is filling orders from May/June of last year....being that your PM is in January you will have quite a wait ahead of you.

Anyone wondering if they have been placed on the list...if you have PMd Rob you are on the list....he goes by order of PMs received. He logs in every couple weeks and replys to list requests.

Rob has not shipped any orders to Europe yet...I'm not sure his exact plans with this region.

Thanks

Hi fenton,

Many thanks for your reply. So I suppose I'm on the list! I've no problem at all with the wait, I still don't have the car, she will be here in 15 days, but I really like the ESC solution and I want to have it sooner or later, and this is the reason I want to be on the waiting list already.

Actually I've been contacted by another Italian guy who have bought the ESC for his MX5 from Rob (I suppose through the MX5 forum), therefore I don't see any issue with the shipping to Italy

[buckseventysix]

PM sent to get on the wait list!

[MagicBobert]

Quick update on the waiting list progress. I sent my interest PM on June 7th, 2014 and I just got my purchasing PM today! So excited!