If I install a backup camera does it void the warranty? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

ChrisJ · 01-24-2015, 11:54 PM

I have a certified used Subaru. BRZ I want to install a backup camera. Will that void the warranty? I don't want to wait for the warranty to expire.

-Chris

Foobar · 01-25-2015, 12:16 AM

You can't void the warranty. Magnuson-Moss act defines your rights and that of the dealer.

Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

Burrcold · 01-25-2015, 12:56 AM

Come on man. Do you really think installing a back up camera is going to void the warranty?!

menikmati · 01-25-2015, 01:17 AM

Can't tell if SquadRogue or not.

DeeezNuuuts83 · 01-25-2015, 02:21 AM

The entire warranty, no. Maybe only if you are trying to make a warranty claim for electrical components or the head unit, assuming that is what the backup camera links to.

Ashikabi · 01-25-2015, 10:09 PM

They have to prove the modification you made caused the problem you are making a warranty claim on. I hear it's actually pretty hard for the dealer to refuse something

PollosHermanos · 01-25-2015, 10:23 PM

Warrantees don't get voided; service under your warranty can be denied. Moss magnusson protects you only for non-oem parts that are within the manufacturer's design spec. Eg: non-oem air filters won't prevent you from getting service covered for a jacked up MAF.

Mod something, expect to pay for it if/when it breaks. If you can't afford to do that then don't mod.

DeeezNuuuts83 · 01-25-2015, 10:28 PM

But the Act doesn't mean that you won't have a hard time trying to get warranty work done. Plenty of owners of performance-oriented cars sometimes even have headaches getting warranty work done when completely stock.

Sure, in the end, you can cite it and eventually get things your way, but it's not as if the mere mention of it will make the dealership and/or the manufacturer fold.

Ashikabi · 01-25-2015, 10:29 PM

^

PollosHermanos · 01-25-2015, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeeezNuuuts83

But the Act doesn't mean that you won't have a hard time trying to get warranty work done. Plenty of owners of performance-oriented cars sometimes even have headaches getting warranty work done when completely stock.

Sure, in the end, you can cite it and eventually get things your way, but it's not as if the mere mention of it will make the dealership and/or the manufacturer fold.

Exactly. Waving you arms around and citing the MM act to the service manager will not make it a nice and easy dealer visit and it isn't a gurantee you can get something covered.

Ashikabi · 01-25-2015, 10:33 PM

Just don't mention the mods when you need service and when they refuse argue over why your mod couldn't have caused the problem you are having. If it caused it you're screwed and shouldn't be taking it to the dealer because they will screw you. Never go to the dealer unless it's covered by warranty.

DeeezNuuuts83 · 01-25-2015, 10:39 PM

I remember my Evo's fuel door stopped opening a few years ago (it was a broken plastic clip that pops the fuel door open when you pull the release, and it costs $2-3), but I figured I'd take it in and get it fixed under warranty anyway and get the carwash out of it. The service manager said he'd need to first confirm that my car wasn't modded... you know, because an output greater than stock apparently prematurely wears out your fuel door clip.

Obviously that service manager was a complete idiot and not necessarily indicative of the typical warranty claim experience, but it's not always going to be a walk in the park... and my car has always been 100% bone stock too and I had that stupid conversation.

PollosHermanos · 01-25-2015, 10:47 PM

^ Yea, standard operating procedure in some places. You figure if a dealer does too much warranty work (staistically vs. the national/regonal average) and the national organization takes a harder look at their request for reimbursement.

That fuel door clip though. Holy shit, lol.

DeeezNuuuts83 · 01-25-2015, 11:31 PM

Yeah, I've got stories for days. Another time, within a few months of buying the car, it just felt out of alignment, so I brought it in. I tend to wander around the dealership when my car is in for service, and I happened to walk by their service bays and saw a technician putting air in the tires on the right side. A little later, the tech says that my car was driving fine, but I pulled out my tire pressure gauge in front of the guy and asked why the right side was at 40 psi. He said maybe my gauge was off, but thanks to America's Tire Co. giving them for free, I had another one handy, but before I could check the tire pressure, the guy was like, "We can just go ahead and do the alignment, if you have time."

01-24-2015, 11:54 PM	#1
ChrisJ Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Drives: 2014 Subaru BRZ Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 29 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	If I install a backup camera does it void the warranty? I have a certified used Subaru. BRZ I want to install a backup camera. Will that void the warranty? I don't want to wait for the warranty to expire. -Chris

01-25-2015, 12:56 AM	#3
Burrcold Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Drives: Subaru BRZ Limited Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 2,624 Thanks: 763 Thanked 1,586 Times in 776 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Come on man. Do you really think installing a back up camera is going to void the warranty?! __________________

01-25-2015, 10:23 PM	#7
PollosHermanos Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: 2014 SWP BRZ Limited 6SP Location: Marshfield, MA Posts: 322 Thanks: 78 Thanked 144 Times in 75 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Warrantees don't get voided; service under your warranty can be denied. Moss magnusson protects you only for non-oem parts that are within the manufacturer's design spec. Eg: non-oem air filters won't prevent you from getting service covered for a jacked up MAF. Mod something, expect to pay for it if/when it breaks. If you can't afford to do that then don't mod. __________________ 1990 Laser RS - Lights go up, lights go down \|\|1992 MX-6 Coupe - Hah ... no \|\| 2001 Integra GSR - Almost rice. Risotto \|\| 2003 IS300 - A nice car but no fun. \|\| 2011 Stage I GTI - Lots of fun. Would buy another 2014 BRZ - That BRZ. So hot right now.

01-25-2015, 10:47 PM	#13
PollosHermanos Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: 2014 SWP BRZ Limited 6SP Location: Marshfield, MA Posts: 322 Thanks: 78 Thanked 144 Times in 75 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	^ Yea, standard operating procedure in some places. You figure if a dealer does too much warranty work (staistically vs. the national/regonal average) and the national organization takes a harder look at their request for reimbursement. That fuel door clip though. Holy shit, lol. __________________ 1990 Laser RS - Lights go up, lights go down \|\|1992 MX-6 Coupe - Hah ... no \|\| 2001 Integra GSR - Almost rice. Risotto \|\| 2003 IS300 - A nice car but no fun. \|\| 2011 Stage I GTI - Lots of fun. Would buy another 2014 BRZ - That BRZ. So hot right now.

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Kenwood CMOS-210 Backup Camera Install	TSY	Electronics \| Audio \| NAV \| Infotainment	34	12-10-2014 02:18 PM
Anybody can help me install a backup camera?	dingledangle	Northern California	0	12-02-2014 12:25 AM
Backup Camera Install in Houston Texas?	NIN69	Cosmetic Modification (Interior/Exterior/Lighting)	18	06-18-2014 08:49 PM
Backup Camera Install Houston TX	NIN69	Electronics \| Audio \| NAV \| Infotainment	0	05-25-2014 02:27 PM
Backup camera install. Where to get it done, I'm near Macon and Atlanta	dro	Southeast	1	09-02-2013 01:38 AM

01-25-2015, 01:17 AM	#4
menikmati Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Drives: 2015 BRZ, 2005 STI Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 336 Thanks: 229 Thanked 225 Times in 118 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Can't tell if SquadRogue or not.

01-25-2015, 02:21 AM	#5
DeeezNuuuts83 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: 2006 Evo IX SE Location: Southern California Posts: 997 Thanks: 115 Thanked 254 Times in 170 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The entire warranty, no. Maybe only if you are trying to make a warranty claim for electrical components or the head unit, assuming that is what the backup camera links to.

01-25-2015, 10:09 PM	#6
Ashikabi Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: Northwest Iowa Posts: 7,359 Thanks: 454 Thanked 4,549 Times in 2,950 Posts Mentioned: 59 Post(s) Tagged: 5 Thread(s)	They have to prove the modification you made caused the problem you are making a warranty claim on. I hear it's actually pretty hard for the dealer to refuse something

01-25-2015, 10:28 PM	#8
DeeezNuuuts83 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: 2006 Evo IX SE Location: Southern California Posts: 997 Thanks: 115 Thanked 254 Times in 170 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	But the Act doesn't mean that you won't have a hard time trying to get warranty work done. Plenty of owners of performance-oriented cars sometimes even have headaches getting warranty work done when completely stock. Sure, in the end, you can cite it and eventually get things your way, but it's not as if the mere mention of it will make the dealership and/or the manufacturer fold.

01-25-2015, 10:29 PM	#9
Ashikabi Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: Northwest Iowa Posts: 7,359 Thanks: 454 Thanked 4,549 Times in 2,950 Posts Mentioned: 59 Post(s) Tagged: 5 Thread(s)	^

01-25-2015, 10:33 PM	#11
Ashikabi Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: Northwest Iowa Posts: 7,359 Thanks: 454 Thanked 4,549 Times in 2,950 Posts Mentioned: 59 Post(s) Tagged: 5 Thread(s)	Just don't mention the mods when you need service and when they refuse argue over why your mod couldn't have caused the problem you are having. If it caused it you're screwed and shouldn't be taking it to the dealer because they will screw you. Never go to the dealer unless it's covered by warranty.

01-25-2015, 10:39 PM	#12
DeeezNuuuts83 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: 2006 Evo IX SE Location: Southern California Posts: 997 Thanks: 115 Thanked 254 Times in 170 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I remember my Evo's fuel door stopped opening a few years ago (it was a broken plastic clip that pops the fuel door open when you pull the release, and it costs $2-3), but I figured I'd take it in and get it fixed under warranty anyway and get the carwash out of it. The service manager said he'd need to first confirm that my car wasn't modded... you know, because an output greater than stock apparently prematurely wears out your fuel door clip. Obviously that service manager was a complete idiot and not necessarily indicative of the typical warranty claim experience, but it's not always going to be a walk in the park... and my car has always been 100% bone stock too and I had that stupid conversation.

01-25-2015, 11:31 PM	#14
DeeezNuuuts83 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: 2006 Evo IX SE Location: Southern California Posts: 997 Thanks: 115 Thanked 254 Times in 170 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Yeah, I've got stories for days. Another time, within a few months of buying the car, it just felt out of alignment, so I brought it in. I tend to wander around the dealership when my car is in for service, and I happened to walk by their service bays and saw a technician putting air in the tires on the right side. A little later, the tech says that my car was driving fine, but I pulled out my tire pressure gauge in front of the guy and asked why the right side was at 40 psi. He said maybe my gauge was off, but thanks to America's Tire Co. giving them for free, I had another one handy, but before I could check the tire pressure, the guy was like, "We can just go ahead and do the alignment, if you have time."

User Name		Remember Me?
Password