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Old 01-16-2015, 08:04 PM   #15
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Even with them all "off" with the buttons there are still some overrides that kick in if the car thinks it is slipping toooo much. Pedal dance kills that urge it has. No problem.

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Can you reference that? The manual says that off is off (the three second thing) and won't reactivate. Mine does, in a most obvious way. Somewhere around here is proof that the nannies are never totally "off" (dance or fuse the exceptions) but damned if I can find it.

Could it be an MT/AT issue?
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Can you reference that? The manual says that off is off (the three second thing) and won't reactivate. Mine does, in a most obvious way. Somewhere around here is proof that the nannies are never totally "off" (dance or fuse the exceptions) but damned if I can find it.

Could it be an MT/AT issue?
If you just press the TC button quickly, it will deactivate until you hit 20mph(?). Primarily this is used for snow starts and the like. If you hold the button, it will remain 'off', but as you mentioned only the pedal dance or removing a fuse shut it off completely.
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Can you reference that? The manual says that off is off (the three second thing) and won't reactivate. Mine does, in a most obvious way. Somewhere around here is proof that the nannies are never totally "off" (dance or fuse the exceptions) but damned if I can find it.
Here's your 14-page proof:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25494

Also, it should be noted that even with pedal dance, you can still trigger "ice mode" if you somehow are hard on the brakes and run into a complete loss of braking power (aka going offroad or hitting oil) situation.

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Can you reference that? The manual says that off is off (the three second thing) and won't reactivate. Mine does, in a most obvious way. Somewhere around here is proof that the nannies are never totally "off" (dance or fuse the exceptions) but damned if I can find it.

Could it be an MT/AT issue?
It is here http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25494


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I turned off my traction control by holding the button, came in hot into a corner and almost spun it into a ditch after starting to slide. Nothing kicked in to save me except for some counter steering and a loss of momentum
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If you just press the TC button quickly, it will deactivate until you hit 20mph(?). Primarily this is used for snow starts and the like. If you hold the button, it will remain 'off', but as you mentioned only the pedal dance or removing a fuse shut it off completely.
Same-same using the owners manual "three second" rule which says all off. Next time I go to the dealer I'll bring it up. And yes, the dude I go to at the dealer is an FR-S owner and hooligan too. Lucky, I guess.
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I turned off my traction control by holding the button, came in hot into a corner and almost spun it into a ditch after starting to slide. Nothing kicked in to save me except for some counter steering and a loss of momentum
Same here -- hooning around it sure seems that in mine I can slide, spin, and lock up the brakes all day with holding both buttons down until all the lights come on.
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Hey wait a sec here guys, the only answer to the OPs original question is: Only when I am on a certified track under controlled conditions!
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Constantly. Rarely is it more than a small slide of a few degrees, but I've gotten so used to doing it, it's become habit and just part of the way the car drives. I'm not talking huge sideways drifts, that's what snowy parking lots are for.

But let's just say "inducing oversteer"??? Every single chance I get. It's 1/2 the reason I bought the car.
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The car has no power, this is impossible.
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The car has no power, this is impossible.
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Ah, so I must wear my butch gear to do it, got it.
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Ah, so I must wear my butch gear to do it, got it.
Unless your other car is a Prius!
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I have Prius wheels on the BRZ, right?
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