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Old 01-04-2015, 06:28 AM   #15
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I forgot to mention before, but this car has possibly the worst blind spots ever.
Sounds like you may not have your mirrors adjusted correctly. I don't have any blind spots since changing to this method.

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Old 01-04-2015, 06:40 AM   #16
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You should wait until the Alpha Camaro comes out.
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Old 01-04-2015, 07:59 AM   #17
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Sounds like you may not have your mirrors adjusted correctly. I don't have any blind spots since changing to this method.

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Pretty much this. If you can see your own car in, your side mirrors, you're doing it wrong. Took a while to get used to it, but wow what a difference.
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Old 01-04-2015, 11:08 AM   #18
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I think the only way you will get the torque where you want it will be with forced induction. If you have the money and time to go down that path it is not a bad option, but you start talking $$ to get there. Have you driven the new WRX? It actually has more torque down low than the STI and is a good daily driver. You will give up some of the handling and sportiness, but a few suspension mods won't cost you much and may give you what you are looking for.
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Sounds like you may not have your mirrors adjusted correctly. I don't have any blind spots since changing to this method.

http://www.caranddriver.com/features...id-blind-spots
There is a cone of blindness to the left of the driver that expands outward. You can adjust the mirror so that you don't have a blind spot in the lane next to you, but there is no way to adjust the stock mirrors to eliminate the blind spot in the second lane over. It is geometrically impossible with the stock mirrors. There is a similar blind spot on the other side, but it's easier to see into it on that side by turning your head and looking out the rear porthole window.

You may not notice this problem if you always drive on two to four lane roads or always drive in city traffic. If you do a lot of highway driving on large, six lane interstates, it becomes an issue, especially when assholes drive along under the speed limit in the left lane and then speed up to block you when you pass on the far right.
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My only real complaint is there seems to be NO TORQUE on the stock engine or tune. Will a tune exhaust and intake cure some of this? I have no problem with the power up high but down low its very lacking to me. I dont expect it to be a V8 but it was like almost hard to get off the line with out huge revs and slipping the clutch a bit. Might just have been a really grabby new clutch.

I mean can you get another 50hp with boltons?
I think if you're looking for it to launch off the line like a rocket, you will be continually disappointed with this car. There are plenty of other cars that offer the power you want. Aftermarket intake really doesn't help this engine, as the intake on it is already giving it as much cold air as it needs. A header, tune and exhaust will help some, primarily to smooth out the torque dip, but not as much as you want. To get what you want, you'll have to go to forced induction.

Personally, while I would love to have another 50 hp naturally aspirated, this car is such a pleasure to drive otherwise that I would still buy it in a heartbeat. But I wasn't looking for a rocket. I wanted a car in which I could take a turn on a country road at 60 mph with no effort at all and laugh as the driver of the Jeep Grand Cherokee that was riding my bumper on the straight shits himself as he's suddenly sliding sideways trying to keep up.
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Old 01-04-2015, 11:54 AM   #21
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there is no way to adjust the stock mirrors to eliminate the blind spot in the second lane over
Second lane over? I think you will find this is the case on the majority of cars. When people are talking about blind spots on cars, they are generally not referring to traffic outside the lanes either side. I guess this could be a problem if you regularly change multiple lanes all at once, although one would hope you have planned better than that and are able to perform two single lane changes several seconds apart, checking your mirrors between.
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I guess this could be a problem if you regularly change multiple lanes all at once, although one would hope you have planned better than that and are able to perform two single lane changes several seconds apart, checking your mirrors between.
No, as I wrote above, it's a problem when you're in the right lane and want to go to the center, and you can't see the dumbass in your blind spot in the left lane who has sped up and is trying to move to the center lane to block you. In that situation, a check of your mirrors and out your window shows a clear lane. As you move into it, suddenly a car appears into that center lane out of the blind spot.

Like I said, if this is just your around town grocery getter or you never get off two lane roads, this won't affect you. I drive 30K miles per year on highways and frequently encounter this exact scenario.
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it's a problem when you're in the right lane and want to go to the center, and you can't see the dumbass in your blind spot in the left lane who has sped up and is trying to move to the center lane to block you.
I was just discussing this "two cars move to the centre lane" scenario with a colleague at work a couple of weeks ago. Our conclusion was, that either both cars are level, in which case it's easy to see the other car out the side window. Or one car is ahead and the other is behind, in this case, the car behind would obviously see the car in front and abort their lane change.

Although the situation you are describing almost sounds malicious, like the other person is trying to cause an accident. I guess when you have idiot drivers on the road like that then you need as much situational awareness as you can get.
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If your only issue is with the torque & like the power up top, consider a UEL header with a tune. This car suffers from a MASSIVE torque dip from around 3k to 4.5k rpms where the car just feels like it falls on its face before starting to go anywhere again. Look at any stock Dino. It's by no means gonna get you that 50+ torque you mentioned but makes a drastic difference in the way the car feels because it eliminates the dip and gives you a much linear power band. Plus you get the subie rumble
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Old 01-04-2015, 03:43 PM   #25
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Pretty much this. If you can see your own car in, your side mirrors, you're doing it wrong. Took a while to get used to it, but wow what a difference.
I tried this and totally forgot about mentioning this option.

I just hated not being able to see apart of my car. That's why I love these wide concave mirrors so much. I was also forced into the purchase seeing as some douche-bag broke my passenger side mirror and the blue tint in the mirrors look nice too.
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Just on those mirrors. I'm used to looking over my shoulder, when backing into a drive way, but those mirrors are so huge and their angle extends so far down that I can actually judge where my rear wheel will meet the driveway and not have to battle with twisting my head round anymore.


In other words for a seemingly small mirror they really do seem to show an amazingly clear rearward view.
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can you get another 50hp with boltons?
If you want a bit more oomph, the electric supercharger kit is nifty (reasonably priced, quick to install/remove, little/no parasitic loss). I considered getting one, but personally I like winding up the car in stock form (though perhaps I'll supercharge it in a couple years, just to mix things up).



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You should change your tires immediately however seeing as these Prius tires just don't do the car justice.
Though they're widely derided as "Prius" tires on this forum, that's a tad misleading since the Primacy HP isn't available on the Prius in most markets (you can get them with the Prius sport package in Japan). Note that they've also been sold on some Audis and Mercedes.

IMO, they offer great feedback and plenty of grip for daily driving, while also allowing one to break the back-end loose for low speed shenanigans.

That written, if you're going to autox or track day, you'll want different tires (but it's better to get dedicated tires/rims for competitions anyway).
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Ya I am pretty much sold on the BRZ. I think I will keep my SS and just use the BRZ/86 as a DD with some light mods to make it mine. Gotta pick a color still .

Man I really like the look of the Greddy exhaust with the blue tips haha, the aftermarket is amazing on this car.

I read somewhere that it didnt have the Subaru burble due to equal length headers?

Also if I do a tune and an exhaust will the dealer cancel my warranty? That would be a bummer.

I think I would change the wheels just cause I am not a big fan of the style of them alone. And it defiantly needs a little drop which I could probably get with some springs. But may run some KW coilovers haha.

I was reading Perrins website and seems like he got some decent gains with the parts and tunes he used. I will look at that electric supercharger haha I always thought those were kinda a joke guess someone got it working.

Thanks for the help so far. I felt like the car had great visibility and I also run little convex mirrors on all my cars makes it so much easier to see whats next to you.
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