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Atropine · 12-14-2014, 01:08 AM

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ZDan · 12-14-2014, 07:20 AM

5" hole?! Tha isn't what I'd call "small"! What'd you hit?

If your insurance goes up because of this, make the claim and then shop for insurance.

Learning to weld is a fine idea, but learning to weld on your $25k car? I wouldn't...

Freetime · 12-14-2014, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by radroach

Not without my insurance going up. I figure it'd be worth it to put the money towards learning something.

This is a VERY common myth. I've claimed tons of stuff on my insurance and it has never gone up. Did you even check with them, first?

dem00n · 12-14-2014, 06:26 PM

Learning how to weld on cars.

1. Buy an Alfa Romeo

2. Remove rust.

3. Weld on new patches of metal.

4. Success.

pushrod · 12-14-2014, 07:01 PM

As someone that just sat down from welding about 30 minutes ago, let me say that the floorboards of a car is pretty ambitious for a first welding project. Buy a piece of scrap metal, cut it to shape with a suitable overlap, and use stainless blind rivets to join it, along with a bunch of seam sealer. That will fix the car.

As for welding, buy a good MIG one day and practice on scrap on a clean workbench.

Let's keep fixing the floor of the car and learning to weld as independent events.

Special_K · 12-15-2014, 11:38 AM

I pretty much agree with all of the above, and my first post, although long, definitely didn't have all the information you need. Personally, I have my welding certifications, but I'm far from mastering it, and I doubt I'd take my garage welder to a big hole in my car. I'd want to have my industrial TIG setup, and quadruple check thickness, heat, gas, etc. And depending on the location of the hole, overhead welding might be the only option to get it done properly, and overhead welding is a fickle bitch.

Getting into welding is a great hobby/skill to have but it'll be a long process for you to go from brand new to overhead automotive work. But that's not to discourage you! Dive in to welding and learn the full process because it comes in handy all the time. We just don't want to read a post in a week about you burning clean through your beautiful FT86.

radroach · 12-15-2014, 02:57 PM

Hmm I might have to just learn to Bondo and glue over the hole in the body until then.

Thanks everyone for the advice! I'm planning on taking welding classes soon at a local college.

ZDan · 12-16-2014, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radroach

Hmm I might have to just learn to Bondo and glue over the hole in the body until then.
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Fricking absurd. Make the insurance claim and let a good body shop fix the car, PLEASE.

radroach · 12-16-2014, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZDan

Fricking absurd. Make the insurance claim and let a good body shop fix the car, PLEASE.

The "good body shop" that takes insurance wants to just apply an adhesive patch, and through insurance rates going up would cost 20x more than if I bought all the tools myself and DIY.

An independent shop quoted me $500 for the fix out of pocket but after talking to everyone here I'm going to have to be choosy about where I get sheet metal work done.

pushrod · 12-16-2014, 07:01 PM

I don't see a problem with fixing it yourself, especially if you want to. Why bother going through the insurance company? All that does is draw attention to your file with them, not to mention the deductible.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZDan

Fricking absurd. Make the insurance claim and let a good body shop fix the car, PLEASE.

Be a hustler, not a customer.

12-14-2014, 06:26 PM	#18
dem00n Member of the year - 2016 Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: Scion FRS Location: New York Posts: 3,575 Thanks: 788 Thanked 2,427 Times in 1,111 Posts Mentioned: 23 Post(s)	Learning how to weld on cars. 1. Buy an Alfa Romeo 2. Remove rust. 3. Weld on new patches of metal. 4. Success. __________________ Friends don't let friends Plastidip

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Special_K Bannéd Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: 2013 DGM BRZ Location: WA Posts: 1,425 Thanks: 1,671 Thanked 2,079 Times in 912 Posts Mentioned: 19 Post(s)	I pretty much agree with all of the above, and my first post, although long, definitely didn't have all the information you need. Personally, I have my welding certifications, but I'm far from mastering it, and I doubt I'd take my garage welder to a big hole in my car. I'd want to have my industrial TIG setup, and quadruple check thickness, heat, gas, etc. And depending on the location of the hole, overhead welding might be the only option to get it done properly, and overhead welding is a fickle bitch. Getting into welding is a great hobby/skill to have but it'll be a long process for you to go from brand new to overhead automotive work. But that's not to discourage you! Dive in to welding and learn the full process because it comes in handy all the time. We just don't want to read a post in a week about you burning clean through your beautiful FT86. __________________ The fascinating thing about my signature is that by the time you realize that it is of no importance, it will also be too late to stop reading it. Good luck getting those five seconds of your life back.

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pushrod Benched 86lb Join Date: Jul 2014 Drives: Ultramarine FR-S Location: Ottawa Posts: 806 Thanks: 899 Thanked 928 Times in 393 Posts Mentioned: 16 Post(s)	As someone that just sat down from welding about 30 minutes ago, let me say that the floorboards of a car is pretty ambitious for a first welding project. Buy a piece of scrap metal, cut it to shape with a suitable overlap, and use stainless blind rivets to join it, along with a bunch of seam sealer. That will fix the car. As for welding, buy a good MIG one day and practice on scrap on a clean workbench. Let's keep fixing the floor of the car and learning to weld as independent events.

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radroach Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: car Location: usa Posts: 2,162 Thanks: 1,028 Thanked 867 Times in 530 Posts Mentioned: 35 Post(s)	Hmm I might have to just learn to Bondo and glue over the hole in the body until then. Thanks everyone for the advice! I'm planning on taking welding classes soon at a local college.

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