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Ryephile · 05-09-2012, 12:05 AM

I'd like to see some actual stock suspension stroke measurements, so we have some sort of baseline data.

Otherwise, do a track day with data logging, find the weak links, and design & improve accordingly.

Subie · 05-09-2012, 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Khyron686

See what happens to the top end if you tune out that torque dip.

There's nothing in that graph to indicate a cause and effect relationship with respect to the torque dip and top-end...

Chee-Hu · 05-09-2012, 12:29 AM

Nice to know Evasive is on here. Whatever you do to it, I can't hardly wait.

poormans_LFA · 05-09-2012, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Racelex

Full carbon roof?

Evasive/Voltex collabo...i like!

mattles · 05-09-2012, 01:14 AM

light as hell flywheel, slightly heavier clutch, try to smooth out the torque dip in the midrange, delete atleast one of the cats, make the exhaust sound 'cool' without losing power.

russv · 05-09-2012, 01:41 AM

Carbon dash

trackmagic · 05-09-2012, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by russv

Carbon dash

Oh yeah (insert one of those "Word" emocons here)

RYU · 05-09-2012, 01:56 AM

This is coming from a customer who has money in hand to spend. Just no car yet lol.

I'd like for you guys to recommend a suspension package (coilovers & sway bars) coupled with a wheel and tire package that increases the roadholding performance of the car but preserves its balance and predictability. In other words, don't change how the car communicates to the driver just make the performance better in every way.

Evidently, Subaru gave you guys a great platform to start with but something that's well balanced is easy to throw out of whack.

Keep in mind that many of us will be daily driving this so this won't be like your Time Attack Evo or the FXMD NSX. I'd love to have a street friendly package that allows me to shave off 5-8 seconds from my best stock trim lap time and still enjoy the ride home.

That's all. You've got your work cut out for you

Fortunate Few · 05-09-2012, 02:01 AM

Rear seat delete. Plastic and/ or carbon.

(Stealth Inc.) · 05-09-2012, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Fortunate Few

Rear seat delete. Plastic and/ or carbon.

^+1

eight_six · 05-09-2012, 02:10 AM

Evasive

been a fan since s2ki, so nice to see you here.

wheel fitment. i hear the inner clearance on stock wheels is 20mm from rim to spring... so widest wheel fitment non-staggered please. 9.5 all around would be awesome.

single exit exhaust, passenger side exit

200hp out of a 12.5:1 2.0l motor seems low.. i know its restricted.. find out where and show us what this little motor can really do!

two piece rotors, same size as stock. aluminum caliper replacement. trying to stay away from the huge bbk's and increase in unsprung weight.

roll center adjusters. toe links, steering rack spacers.. basically anything that can correct lowered geometry. the car needs a nice drop for aesthetics.. but it seems anything more than .5-.75 inch is a bit much for the front suspension. would be awesome to be able to drop it ~1.5 with correct geometry

something to increase camber and caster. maybe camber/caster plate?

things to save weight. weigh the stock hood, its aluminum. see if any gains would come from good carbon. look into lightweight battery replacement. stock seat weight front and rear. side mirrors are huge.. apr or craftsquare maybe.

replacement rear diffuser with single exit for aesthetic purposes lol. well, if you can incorporate a rear diffuser with a single exit. .that would be killer.

and i can really picture the car with a bumper thats modeled closely to stock but with a carbon lip.. or a nice looking lip on stock bumper, a carbon diffuser and a nice voltex wing.

guess thats it

Symbiont · 05-09-2012, 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RYU

This is coming from a customer who has money in hand to spend. Just no car yet lol.

I'd like for you guys to recommend a suspension package (coilovers & sway bars) coupled with a wheel and tire package that increases the roadholding performance of the car but preserves its balance and predictability. In other words, don't change how the car communicates to the driver just make the performance better in every way.

Evidently, Subaru gave you guys a great platform to start with but something that's well balanced is easy to throw out of whack.

Keep in mind that many of us will be daily driving this so this won't be like your Time Attack Evo or the FXMD NSX. I'd love to have a street friendly package that allows me to shave off 5-8 seconds from my best stock trim lap time and still enjoy the ride home.

That's all. You've got your work cut out for you

This is exactly what I'm looking for, as well as what can be done with intake/headers/exhaust to spring another 20-25HP from the engine, if possible.

poormans_LFA · 05-09-2012, 04:19 AM

i'm aching for some Voltex diffuser upgrades. I would spend for that. I like the suggestion for replacement headers too.

Calum · 05-09-2012, 06:48 AM

I'm gonna modify this car, but I'll be holding back while others do the R&D on the FI until a few racers blow up their engines and they find the weak points for us. Normally I'd start with the suspension but it seems to be so well sorted that I think I'll be starting with power. I'd really like to see what can be done with simple items, intake mani, header, exhaust, and tune. Also, an in depth look at the heads/valvetrain, including flowbenching them, to see what they're capable of and what could improved upon.

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poormans_LFA FT86Club.com O.G. Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: Gunmetal Gundam Wing Zero Custom Location: socal Posts: 1,455 Thanks: 244 Thanked 221 Times in 78 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s)	i'm aching for some Voltex diffuser upgrades. I would spend for that. I like the suggestion for replacement headers too. __________________

05-09-2012, 12:29 AM	#17
Chee-Hu Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: BRZ Location: Elk Grove, CA Posts: 964 Thanks: 360 Thanked 323 Times in 221 Posts Mentioned: 12 Post(s)	Nice to know Evasive is on here. Whatever you do to it, I can't hardly wait.

05-09-2012, 01:14 AM	#19
mattles Proud of FR Layout Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S 6MT Location: Puget Sound, WA Posts: 984 Thanks: 101 Thanked 381 Times in 228 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s)	light as hell flywheel, slightly heavier clutch, try to smooth out the torque dip in the midrange, delete atleast one of the cats, make the exhaust sound 'cool' without losing power.

05-09-2012, 01:56 AM	#22
RYU Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: really slow... Location: Los Angeles (SGV) Posts: 737 Thanks: 340 Thanked 253 Times in 145 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s)	This is coming from a customer who has money in hand to spend. Just no car yet lol. I'd like for you guys to recommend a suspension package (coilovers & sway bars) coupled with a wheel and tire package that increases the roadholding performance of the car but preserves its balance and predictability. In other words, don't change how the car communicates to the driver just make the performance better in every way. Evidently, Subaru gave you guys a great platform to start with but something that's well balanced is easy to throw out of whack. Keep in mind that many of us will be daily driving this so this won't be like your Time Attack Evo or the FXMD NSX. I'd love to have a street friendly package that allows me to shave off 5-8 seconds from my best stock trim lap time and still enjoy the ride home. That's all. You've got your work cut out for you

05-09-2012, 02:10 AM	#25
eight_six Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: None Location: Florida Posts: 27 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s)	Evasive been a fan since s2ki, so nice to see you here. wheel fitment. i hear the inner clearance on stock wheels is 20mm from rim to spring... so widest wheel fitment non-staggered please. 9.5 all around would be awesome. single exit exhaust, passenger side exit 200hp out of a 12.5:1 2.0l motor seems low.. i know its restricted.. find out where and show us what this little motor can really do! two piece rotors, same size as stock. aluminum caliper replacement. trying to stay away from the huge bbk's and increase in unsprung weight. roll center adjusters. toe links, steering rack spacers.. basically anything that can correct lowered geometry. the car needs a nice drop for aesthetics.. but it seems anything more than .5-.75 inch is a bit much for the front suspension. would be awesome to be able to drop it ~1.5 with correct geometry something to increase camber and caster. maybe camber/caster plate? things to save weight. weigh the stock hood, its aluminum. see if any gains would come from good carbon. look into lightweight battery replacement. stock seat weight front and rear. side mirrors are huge.. apr or craftsquare maybe. replacement rear diffuser with single exit for aesthetic purposes lol. well, if you can incorporate a rear diffuser with a single exit. .that would be killer. and i can really picture the car with a bumper thats modeled closely to stock but with a carbon lip.. or a nice looking lip on stock bumper, a carbon diffuser and a nice voltex wing. guess thats it

05-09-2012, 06:48 AM	#28
Calum That Guy Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: 2013 asphalt FRS MT Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia Posts: 4,865 Thanks: 5,058 Thanked 2,868 Times in 1,499 Posts Mentioned: 82 Post(s)	I'm gonna modify this car, but I'll be holding back while others do the R&D on the FI until a few racers blow up their engines and they find the weak points for us. Normally I'd start with the suspension but it seems to be so well sorted that I think I'll be starting with power. I'd really like to see what can be done with simple items, intake mani, header, exhaust, and tune. Also, an in depth look at the heads/valvetrain, including flowbenching them, to see what they're capable of and what could improved upon.

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