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kmbkk · 05-08-2012, 07:17 PM

Well, you may be removing me from the 1st 86 list tomorrow. My dealer is trying to screw me on my trade, so I'm probably going to walk away.it sucks too because I was looking forward to getting it Friday, but I'm not taking $2,000 less than my car is worth.

mattles · 05-08-2012, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kmbkk

Well, you may be removing me from the 1st 86 list tomorrow. My dealer is trying to screw me on my trade, so I'm probably going to walk away.it sucks too because I was looking forward to getting it Friday, but I'm not taking $2,000 less than my car is worth.

Im honestly afraid of this exact thing happening.

civicdrivr · 05-08-2012, 07:28 PM

Sorry to hear that.

My dealer is really trying to milk the marketing out of this and theyre making a huge deal out of it. If yours is doing the same, Id bring it up during negotiations.

kmbkk · 05-08-2012, 07:29 PM

It doesn't surprise me honestly. If they don't give me a respectable offer by tomorrow I'll just call Scion and tell them I'm not buying the car.

kmbkk · 05-08-2012, 07:46 PM

What kills me is they have a silver 05 tC, manual, with 110K miles and they're asking $9000. Mine is a silver 06, auto, with 123k & leather interior, clean in & out. And they only offer me $5300.

civicdrivr · 05-08-2012, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by kmbkk

What kills me is they have a silver 05 tC, manual, with 110K miles and they're asking $9000. Mine is a silver 06, auto, with 123k & leather interior, clean in & out. And they only offer me $5300.

Can they give an explanation for that?

kmbkk · 05-08-2012, 08:12 PM

I haven't asked. I told them I'd take $6500, which is average trade-in, but not less. At this point it's the principle.

SpeedR · 05-08-2012, 08:35 PM

never trade in a car its a lose lose and they always pass it on to you.

LostTHEbeat · 05-08-2012, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by kmbkk

What kills me is they have a silver 05 tC, manual, with 110K miles and they're asking $9000. Mine is a silver 06, auto, with 123k & leather interior, clean in & out. And they only offer me $5300.

kmbkk - Sell it on your own. I was offered $3500 for our 04 Manual Scion xB with 110k by my dealer. We sold it on Autotrader for $7200. Edmunds and KBB said it should be sold, private party, for $5800. So we got even more than we should have got! Perhaps it's the unique case of first-gen xBs not often coming up for sale, but what I think it comes down to is the used car market is a GREAT place to be selling right now, not buying. You should be able to get at least what those sites recommend in private party sale.

At least go to Carmax to see what they would offer. Or, you can appraise your car on Autotrader, see the value, and get in touch with dealers that will buy it from you for that much. On Autotrader, I was being offered $5600, in cash, to head down the local Honda dealership and just sell it to them for cash. Again, a good deal more than the $3500 I was offered by my dealer.

LostTHEbeat · 05-08-2012, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mattles

Im honestly afraid of this exact thing happening.

I was too, and like I said, it happened to me. Dealers make money off of add-ons, financing, price of the car, and your trade value. With the First-86 group, add-ons and the price can't be changed. Tell the dealer you are getting financing elsewhere (which I did), and the only place the profit the dealer has any control over is your trade value.

The worst part of it is (or best part if you're the dealer), is that for us First 86ers, they know we have no choice to buy the car from them - no shopping around for trade values from other Scion dealers.

kmbkk · 05-08-2012, 10:31 PM

Carmax isn't a player for me. The closest one is 180 miles away. Also, most of the dealers around where I live don't give crap for cars, so selling my car to a dealership isn't practical either. I'll just keep my car and get something better at a later date. This could be a blessing in disguise.

HotLavaMann · 05-10-2012, 11:42 PM

Took a long time at the dealer. Fun with everyone coming out to take pictures of it. Just as I was driving out, another FR-S from Scion corporate pulled up so then more pictures. Home now after an enjoyable drive. No front plate and I *really* like the color.

SpecPer · 05-11-2012, 02:36 AM

5/10 delivered. Whiteout, miami florida- Lehman Toyota

civicdrivr · 05-11-2012, 05:06 PM

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First 86 - Asphalt 6MT Priority Scion of Richmond, VA no confirmed date yet

Update - Car is sitting at dealership awaiting PDI.

05-08-2012, 07:28 PM	#17
civicdrivr Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: 2018 Golf R Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 2,807 Thanks: 5,386 Thanked 1,095 Times in 647 Posts Mentioned: 68 Post(s) Tagged: 7 Thread(s)	Sorry to hear that. My dealer is really trying to milk the marketing out of this and theyre making a huge deal out of it. If yours is doing the same, Id bring it up during negotiations. __________________ Parting out HERE

05-10-2012, 11:42 PM	#26
HotLavaMann First 86 member Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: FRS, Tacoma, Honda CB1100 Location: WA State Posts: 165 Thanks: 3 Thanked 92 Times in 29 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Just brought my HotLava home Took a long time at the dealer. Fun with everyone coming out to take pictures of it. Just as I was driving out, another FR-S from Scion corporate pulled up so then more pictures. Home now after an enjoyable drive. No front plate and I really like the color. Attached Images

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05-08-2012, 07:17 PM	#15
kmbkk First 86 Driver Baby! Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: FR-S, Flex Location: Williamsburg, VA Posts: 1,760 Thanks: 520 Thanked 525 Times in 356 Posts Mentioned: 32 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	Well, you may be removing me from the 1st 86 list tomorrow. My dealer is trying to screw me on my trade, so I'm probably going to walk away.it sucks too because I was looking forward to getting it Friday, but I'm not taking $2,000 less than my car is worth.

05-08-2012, 07:29 PM	#18
kmbkk First 86 Driver Baby! Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: FR-S, Flex Location: Williamsburg, VA Posts: 1,760 Thanks: 520 Thanked 525 Times in 356 Posts Mentioned: 32 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	It doesn't surprise me honestly. If they don't give me a respectable offer by tomorrow I'll just call Scion and tell them I'm not buying the car.

05-08-2012, 07:46 PM	#19
kmbkk First 86 Driver Baby! Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: FR-S, Flex Location: Williamsburg, VA Posts: 1,760 Thanks: 520 Thanked 525 Times in 356 Posts Mentioned: 32 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	What kills me is they have a silver 05 tC, manual, with 110K miles and they're asking $9000. Mine is a silver 06, auto, with 123k & leather interior, clean in & out. And they only offer me $5300.

05-08-2012, 08:12 PM	#21
kmbkk First 86 Driver Baby! Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: FR-S, Flex Location: Williamsburg, VA Posts: 1,760 Thanks: 520 Thanked 525 Times in 356 Posts Mentioned: 32 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	I haven't asked. I told them I'd take $6500, which is average trade-in, but not less. At this point it's the principle.

05-08-2012, 08:35 PM	#22
SpeedR First86 / boat thief Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: MKIV Supra Location: OKC Posts: 306 Thanks: 147 Thanked 119 Times in 43 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	never trade in a car its a lose lose and they always pass it on to you.

05-08-2012, 10:31 PM	#25
kmbkk First 86 Driver Baby! Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: FR-S, Flex Location: Williamsburg, VA Posts: 1,760 Thanks: 520 Thanked 525 Times in 356 Posts Mentioned: 32 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	Carmax isn't a player for me. The closest one is 180 miles away. Also, most of the dealers around where I live don't give crap for cars, so selling my car to a dealership isn't practical either. I'll just keep my car and get something better at a later date. This could be a blessing in disguise.

05-11-2012, 02:36 AM	#27
SpecPer Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: Many Location: South Florida Posts: 351 Thanks: 1 Thanked 279 Times in 66 Posts Mentioned: 23 Post(s) Tagged: 4 Thread(s)	5/10 delivered. Whiteout, miami florida- Lehman Toyota

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