I need help

[kqchung]

Originally Posted by cdrazic93

How far do you want to lower it? Do you care?

I want to lower it a bit but no more than an inch, I'm not sure as to how much exactly yet, I guess it depends on the size rims i get. either 17 or 18.

[cdrazic93]

Originally Posted by DAEMANO

Listen to Andy [MENTION=5622]

- .8" = 1.5 finger gap = RaceComp Yellow Kit (includes new shorter bumpstops)
- 1.0" = 1.2 finger gap = Eibach ProKit (includes new shorter bumpstops) or Mach V lowering springs + Aftermarket bumpstops or cut OEM bumpstop
- 1.2" = 1.0 finger gap = RS*R Superdowns or CG lowering springs + new Aftermarket bumpstops
- 1.4 = .8 finger gap = Eibach Sportline or Tein S-Techs + new Aftermarket bumpstops
-1.6 = .6 finger gap = Coilovers meant for riding this low.

Now that I did that I'm going home to take a shower.

Somewhere between -.8" and -1.2" should have the inclusion of it's still OEM dampers or not (don't know if you included that in your subjugation).

[kqchung]

Originally Posted by cdrazic93

I don't need to be as qualified as Andy over here to tell you for a DD, 8K and 10K springs are going to make your valving in your dampers really soft. Shoot for maybe 4-5k for the front and 6-7k for the back. This should provide decent resistance to body roll, while still have competent valving in your dampers to work at lower than stock height at 60+mph.

Ok i think ill go 6k front and 8k backs? is that good?

[PNW FRS]

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

Two things:

1. Camber plates are for the front of the car, not the rear. To adjust rear camber you'll want adjustable rear LCAs.

- Andy

My bad... very unclear... I've edited my post...

in the case of my coil overs... after the rear struts are installed and the drop made.. the negative camber of rear wheels was evident and having camber plates at front allowed adjustment of front.

[Racecomp Engineering]

Originally Posted by kqchung

its a daily driver but i want to be able to track it too. umm my buddy told me to get hanhook rs3 for tires. my budget for everything somewhere around 3.5-4k. if i could do it for less i would be extrememly happy

Wait, $4k just on suspension? Or does that include wheels and tires?

One more question, do you have a lot track experience?

Quality dampers is where you want to spend your money, and BCs are not what I would choose. They're fine if you want a big drop for not much money, but for good ride and handling you can do a lot better even without dropping a lot of cash (especially if you're sticking with an approx 1 inch drop).

- Andy

[DAEMANO]

Originally Posted by cdrazic93

Somewhere between -.8" and -1.2" should have the inclusion of it's still OEM dampers or not (don't know if you included that in your subjugation).

Ah, this was a list of springs only. So all would be running on OEM dampers. Upgrading the OEM dampers would put the OP in low end coilover pricing (great performance though, but no ride height adjustability).

If OP is looking at low end coils it really depends on his goals. I think he said DD + some track now and then. For low end coils there are people with varying degrees of confidence in recommending them. I would probably go something like this.

$800 - ST Coilovers - The KW construction is the deciding factor here although Tein Street basis come pretty well recommended on the board.
$1000 - Bilstein B14s - More solid construction, progressive spring, Bilstein ride.
$1200 - Kraftworks/Skunk2 Coilovers are intriguing as the construction looks solid and their other '86 platform offerings have all been solid. A risk, that could pay off.
$1400 - Bilsten B6 or Koni + RaceComp Yellow combo (Springs & Shocks)
$1500 - Tein StreetFlex - Newly redesigned for 2014, lots of great features
$1600 - RaceComp Tarmac 0s - Proven also Tein Monosport (new for 2014)
$1800 - RS*R Sports-i - The quintessential DD coil for under $2k (I own and love them).
$2000 - KWV3 - Everybody runs em, most love em.
$2200 - RS*R Sports-i ClubRacer - New kid on the block, getting attention
$2300 - RaceComp Tarmac 2 ClubSport - Dual adjustable, awesome RaceComp support.

Really though there are a ton of coils in this range, many are pretty much the same. was however intrigued by Feal 440s and few others at a certain point. The ones above stood out to me. I am a layperson. Whatever you do OP, take your time and research, don't let overly negative people dissuade you from trying something. Listen for the source of their bias. Make your own call, double check the installation. If you make a mistake with your selection, live and learn. Don't race on the street.

[kqchung]

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

Wait, $4k just on suspension? Or does that include wheels and tires?

One more question, do you have a lot track experience?

Quality dampers is where you want to spend your money, and BCs are not what I would choose. They're fine if you want a big drop for not much money, but for good ride and handling you can do a lot better even without dropping a lot of cash (especially if you're sticking with an approx 1 inch drop).

- Andy

4k for suspension tires and rims. i have some track experience though i never did it in my own car. Andy what suspension do you suggest then?

[mike the snake]

On my last car, I spent the extra money on adjustable nice coilovers, and found that I never utilized them as I had planned. This left me with nice suspension, that was too stiff for the street, and I didn't enjoy the car as much as i could have.

On my present car, I didn't want to repeat the same mistake. I knew I wanted to lower the car a bit, but I also knew I'd probably only track the car once or twice a year (to start) so I went with non adjustable coilovers (because I knew I'd never mess with them anyways) and I went with softer spring rates because I didn't want to ruin the street ride for performance's sake.

Some will say you can get a Caddilac ride with stiff springs and the correct dampers, but that I think is "high dollar" unfortunately.

I went with ST coilovers 4kfr/5kr and couldn't be happier. They ride great, let me lower my car as low as I wanted to go, and the price was very good.

Given your budget, if your needs match mine, you could run the ST coilovers and still have enough left for a sweet set of tires and wheels.

If your goals are more performance oriented, then you can spend a LOT more, and there are experts here who give great advice on what to get.

[Captain Snooze]

Originally Posted by kqchung

Ok i think ill go 6k front and 8k backs? is that good?

Here are Captain Snooze's axioms:
1/ Everything's a compromise
2/ There is no one correct setting. See 1/.

Why do you want 8.5 wide rims?

[kqchung]

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

Here are Captain Snooze's axioms:
1/ Everything's a compromise
2/ There is no one correct setting. See 1/.

Why do you want 8.5 wide rims?

to be honest.. I'm not sure. seems like 8.5 i standard or what i see alot

[Captain Snooze]

Originally Posted by kqchung

to be honest.. I'm not sure. seems like 8.5 i standard or what i see alot

I am guessing the most common rims on FRS/BRZ/86 are the original rims.
Just because something is popular doesn't necessarily make it the right choice for you.

There are two reasons (that I can think of) for getting new rims. So that you can fit the tyre size you want and aesthetics. If it is the latter you can put on whatever you like but if you are wanting to put on some performance tyres then tyre/rim size has an impact. There is much discussion in these forums about tyre sizing (see my post above where I say compromise). If you are daily driving and occasional tracking I am suggesting 8.0 would suffice.

[Racecomp Engineering]

Originally Posted by kqchung

4k for suspension tires and rims. i have some track experience though i never did it in my own car. Andy what suspension do you suggest then?

Our RCE Tarmac 0 coilovers would be a good fit for you. Simple and solid coilover that's focused on handling. You'll still have a great ride too. Made by KW to our specs, they're a height adjustable coilover with customized preset damping. Put them on and have fun.

Another good option would be RCE Yellows and Bilstein B6 struts. Not height adjustable and a little softer, but a very good option. It will ride better than the above option (but both ride well) at the expense of a little handling ability.

Add some rear LCAs and some bushings and you're set with a good set-up that will handle and ride well with street tires on the street or track. A lot of people just throw on coilovers without paying attention to the rest of the set up and there's a lot to gain by looking at the full system.

- Andy