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Old 11-19-2014, 09:06 AM   #1
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Are My Synchros Going Out?

So on a cold temp start I have issues getting it into any gear. First time I have had this car in the "winter" months of Texas so I didn't have this issue before. It goes into gear just fine after I finally get it into a gear to where I can move, but before that it just feels like it is stuck. I have a little over 20k miles on my car and haven't grinded any of the gears, but I do drive it pretty hard (after its warm of course). So my question is could it be the synchros or the actual clutch?
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Old 11-19-2014, 09:30 AM   #2
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As long as it frees up after you have drove a bit then there is no problem. Almost any standard will be a bit tough to shift when really cold. The oil just thickens up and needs to warm to flow properly. This has happened every winter, on every one of the 20 or so standards I have owned and has never resulted in damage.
Just double clutch and let it warm up and you will get used to it.
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It's just because it's colder. The oil is thicker so it's a little more difficult to shift from gear to gear. Just be gentle and don't force anything and the gear will engage. You can also try selecting neutral, raise the clutch, then depress the clutch and try again. Usually that'll smooth everything out.

You can also try changing the transmission oil, there's plenty of recommendations on the forum for oil that provide smooth shifting even when cold.
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It's just because it's colder. The oil is thicker so it's a little more difficult to shift from gear to gear. Just be gentle and don't force anything and the gear will engage. You can also try selecting neutral, raise the clutch, then depress the clutch and try again. Usually that'll smooth everything out.
Damn! I wish I had thought of all that in my response.
OK, so now let's see just how many people give the exact same answer even though it is here twice already.
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Damn! I wish I had thought of all that in my response.
OK, so now let's see just how many people give the exact same answer even though it is here twice already.
If you check the times we posted within a minute of each other - we were typing the same post at the same time.

But you got there first just about, so I guess +1 Internet Point for you? Congrats etc.
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As long as it frees up after you have drove a bit then there is no problem. Almost any standard will be a bit tough to shift when really cold. The oil just thickens up and needs to warm to flow properly. This has happened every winter, on every one of the 20 or so standards I have owned and has never resulted in damage. Just double clutch and let it warm up and you will get used to it.
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double clutching will help. @Tcoat



I didnt watch the video, but the thumbnail looked like he knew what he was talking about


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zy0BfG_CG2Y"]What happens in the transmission when you double clutch / Heel Toe Downshift??? - YouTube[/ame]
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If you check the times we posted within a minute of each other - we were typing the same post at the same time.

But you got there first just about, so I guess +1 Internet Point for you? Congrats etc.
Know the tone isn't there in writing but was just joken about the wish I said it part!
Actually you would win by several hours if we take the time zones into account.
The follow up was for the next 100 people that were not typing at the same time as we were and will say it all again anyway.
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As long as it frees up after you have drove a bit then there is no problem. Almost any standard will be a bit tough to shift when really cold. The oil just thickens up and needs to warm to flow properly. This has happened every winter, on every one of the 20 or so standards I have owned and has never resulted in damage. Just double clutch and let it warm up and you will get used to it.
Now this was more the reaction I expected to my poorly phrased joke!
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