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Teseo · 11-14-2014, 04:41 PM

OP bough wrong car

kdmBRZ · 11-14-2014, 09:38 PM

unicorn blood...yes...that should get you 350hp....

airjonny · 11-14-2014, 09:41 PM

Some Type R stickers and a RB wing should do it.

Bobblehead · 11-14-2014, 10:12 PM

You're going to need a lot of money, a lot of patience, a lot of time and 100 shot of NOS and some overnight parts from Japan....

But in all honesty, E85, lots of boost, big turbo, extensive internal work (forged pistons, etc) and a really really good tune.

robr · 11-14-2014, 10:28 PM

Maybe I missed the memo on responding to threads like this, but 350rwhp on E85 is pretty simple. On pump, no, not gonna happen safely.

We just finished tuning an AVO kit that did 398rwhp/322rwtq at 1 bar. My car makes 363rwhp/279rwtq with an ULTRA-conservative 11psi tune with a 5558bb. Hell, my E85 low boost (read: wastegate) setting is 320-something.

aznatama · 11-14-2014, 10:33 PM

Simple.... If you have money to upgrade engine internals, but quality parts, tune, etc. Not to mention you must live near e85 station.

nlowell · 11-14-2014, 11:31 PM

I'm running the base kraftwerks kit on e85 and a dynolicious tune - dyno'd in the 360s

ntron1 · 11-15-2014, 09:25 AM

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nYXkKN1k7M"]Paul Walker Fast and Furious Need NOS scene - YouTube[/ame]

robr · 11-15-2014, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by aznatama

Simple.... If you have money to upgrade engine internals, but quality parts, tune, etc. Not to mention you must live near e85 station.

No need for internals at the 350 level with E85.

You should buy quality parts regardless of power levels, so that's a moot point.

You should also get a quality tune regardless of power level, so another moot point.

Closest E85 station to me is 20 miles away. I get ~240 miles per tank with E85 and a fair amount of boost usage per tank. After calibrating the mpg indicator for E85, it says an average of 22.3 right now. Doing the maths (usually fill around 11 gallons at 240 gallons), I get an average of 21.8 mpg. I'll see 24.x mpg average on the highway sections. I live in the "country" near DFW and I can get to Dallas, Ft Worth, San Antonio, Kerrville, etc using just E85 with little to no worries. Plus, if you're even remotely intelligent -and by this I mean just smart enough to listen to your tuner- you will have a map for a pump/E85 mix, and a map for pure pump gas for the times you get stuck out somewhere without E85 (if you go anywhere with that being a possibilty).

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aznatama · 11-15-2014, 11:26 AM

Not arguing. Just don't believe a motor built for 200hp can handle 350 without some internal work.

Quality parts and tune is not a moot point. Many ppl don't think about this when building out for power. About how much did you spend though?

robr · 11-15-2014, 11:29 AM

Less than a local did for a full NA Nameless setup and tune.

But I work at arguably the best mk2 MR2 shop around, so my cost is an outlier for sure. But like I said, we just finished tuning an AVO kit with Perrin intake, and it did 398rwhp at 1 bar. How much do those kits cost?

extrashaky · 11-15-2014, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by robr

moot

moot

Quote:

Originally Posted by aznatama

moot

All of this is moot to someone who just comes on the regular board and asks "how to 350HP."

aznatama · 11-15-2014, 11:57 AM

Lol true.

giorgi0424 · 11-15-2014, 11:28 PM

Crawford performance has tuned BRZ's to 450whp and more. They haven't been perfectly reliable, but I'm imagining with anything under that, they can make it pretty damn good. Look into them. Matt Farah reviewed one on the Drive Network. check it out on Youtube

11-14-2014, 10:12 PM	#18
Bobblehead Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Drives: 2013 BRZ (gone) 2016 Ford Fusion SE Location: Western PA Posts: 602 Thanks: 522 Thanked 494 Times in 223 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	You're going to need a lot of money, a lot of patience, a lot of time and 100 shot of NOS and some overnight parts from Japan.... But in all honesty, E85, lots of boost, big turbo, extensive internal work (forged pistons, etc) and a really really good tune. __________________

11-14-2014, 10:33 PM	#20
aznatama Senior Member Join Date: May 2014 Drives: 2014 BRZ MT (Sold); 2006 V70R Location: Fairfax Posts: 873 Thanks: 10 Thanked 186 Times in 150 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Simple.... If you have money to upgrade engine internals, but quality parts, tune, etc. Not to mention you must live near e85 station. __________________ '14 BRZ LTD MT DGM

11-14-2014, 11:31 PM	#21
nlowell Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Drives: 2013 Scion FRS Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 443 Thanks: 105 Thanked 409 Times in 173 Posts Mentioned: 51 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm running the base kraftwerks kit on e85 and a dynolicious tune - dyno'd in the 360s __________________ Complete Part Out: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125688

11-15-2014, 09:25 AM	#22
ntron1 Sarcastic Bastard Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: '13 DGM BRZ, '13 Mini, 1999 Blazer Location: Amish Land, PA Posts: 586 Thanks: 341 Thanked 336 Times in 182 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nYXkKN1k7M"]Paul Walker Fast and Furious Need NOS scene - YouTube[/ame] __________________

11-15-2014, 11:26 AM	#24
aznatama Senior Member Join Date: May 2014 Drives: 2014 BRZ MT (Sold); 2006 V70R Location: Fairfax Posts: 873 Thanks: 10 Thanked 186 Times in 150 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Not arguing. Just don't believe a motor built for 200hp can handle 350 without some internal work. Quality parts and tune is not a moot point. Many ppl don't think about this when building out for power. About how much did you spend though? __________________ '14 BRZ LTD MT DGM

11-14-2014, 04:41 PM	#15
Teseo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Drives: frs Location: Gunsai Posts: 4,954 Thanks: 7,467 Thanked 2,980 Times in 1,802 Posts Mentioned: 23 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	OP bough wrong car

11-14-2014, 09:38 PM	#16
kdmBRZ Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Drives: '14 SWP BRZ Location: SoCal Posts: 122 Thanks: 50 Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	unicorn blood...yes...that should get you 350hp....

11-14-2014, 09:41 PM	#17
airjonny Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: Nissan Murano Location: Chicago suburbs Posts: 491 Thanks: 505 Thanked 340 Times in 185 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Some Type R stickers and a RB wing should do it.

11-14-2014, 10:28 PM	#19
robr Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Drives: 2013 FRS, with boost by ATS Racing Location: Haslet, TX Posts: 195 Thanks: 20 Thanked 82 Times in 58 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Maybe I missed the memo on responding to threads like this, but 350rwhp on E85 is pretty simple. On pump, no, not gonna happen safely. We just finished tuning an AVO kit that did 398rwhp/322rwtq at 1 bar. My car makes 363rwhp/279rwtq with an ULTRA-conservative 11psi tune with a 5558bb. Hell, my E85 low boost (read: wastegate) setting is 320-something.

11-15-2014, 11:29 AM	#25
robr Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Drives: 2013 FRS, with boost by ATS Racing Location: Haslet, TX Posts: 195 Thanks: 20 Thanked 82 Times in 58 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Less than a local did for a full NA Nameless setup and tune. But I work at arguably the best mk2 MR2 shop around, so my cost is an outlier for sure. But like I said, we just finished tuning an AVO kit with Perrin intake, and it did 398rwhp at 1 bar. How much do those kits cost?

11-15-2014, 11:57 AM	#27
aznatama Senior Member Join Date: May 2014 Drives: 2014 BRZ MT (Sold); 2006 V70R Location: Fairfax Posts: 873 Thanks: 10 Thanked 186 Times in 150 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Lol true. __________________ '14 BRZ LTD MT DGM

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