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strat61caster · 11-12-2014, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by STJ

LOL never met a person that didn't like the Supra!

Well there's three in this thread alone, the world is a big place!

Rampage · 11-12-2014, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster

Well there's three in this thread alone, the world is a big place!

You can make that four. I owned two. The Supra mythology is much greater than the Supra reality.

Tcoat · 11-12-2014, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster

Well there's three in this thread alone, the world is a big place!

5
Never was a fan!

tahdizzle · 11-13-2014, 12:04 PM

I appreciate them, I like seeing them on the road.

Would I buy one? Nope.

Noble713 · 11-13-2014, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Rampage

You can make that four. I owned two. The Supra mythology is much greater than the Supra reality.

Can you elaborate on what the "Supra mythology" is?

My impression of the Supra is it's one of the best Grand Tourers: a big coupe with a smooth engine that reliably and cheaply makes boatloads of horsepower, perfect for long, fast highway journeys. Also pretty dominating as a drag car until the AWD monsters (the R35 GT-R and TT'ed Lambos) took over.

Oh and on-topic: can't say I'm surprised. I'm waiting for Mazda's website to have a link to norotors.com

strat61caster · 11-14-2014, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Noble713

Can you elaborate on what the "Supra mythology" is?

rice_classic · 11-14-2014, 12:52 PM

Girlfriend has pretty much made up her mind on a 2015 Mazda 3 i-Grand-Touring Sedan in that beautiful red.

I'm pushing two things though.. 1: Appearance package with wheels and 2: 6 Spd Manual transmission.

I'm convinced that if I can teach her out to double clutch or heal-toe I will forever change her life.

malave7567 · 11-14-2014, 01:39 PM

Ah well, my idea was to rebuild another 2nd gen 13B anyway. Still disappointing to me, since I absolutely love the drive and sound of RX series, but they just cannot meet MPG or emissions this day and age. That bridgeported rotary sound with a RacingBeat header and Holley carb though? Priceless (to me, i know opinions vary). I'm going to have to rock my no-pistons car sticker and shirt again eventually.

rice_classic · 11-14-2014, 01:52 PM

ZDan · 11-14-2014, 02:08 PM

I really wish they would build a lightweight fixed-roof sports car on the Miata platform with a novel and compact piston engine that would allow for a very low hood and cowl with centralized mass and better (more rearward) than 50/50 weight distribution. Something like a 2.5 V4 spinning to >8000rpm making 270ish hp NA should be nearly as compact as the rotary, while giving much better fuel economy. That's what *I'd* do if I were Mazda...

DarkSunrise · 11-14-2014, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ZDan

I really wish they would build a lightweight fixed-roof sports car on the Miata platform with a novel and compact piston engine that would allow for a very low hood and cowl with centralized mass and better (more rearward) than 50/50 weight distribution. Something like a 2.5 V4 spinning to >8000rpm making 270ish hp NA should be nearly as compact as the rotary, while giving much better fuel economy. That's what *I'd* do if I were Mazda...

Sounds like a smaller Corvette with half the engine lol.

cdrazic93 · 11-14-2014, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkSunrise

Sounds like a smaller Corvette with half the engine lol.

At 2/3 the price.

strat61caster · 11-14-2014, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ZDan

I really wish they would build a lightweight fixed-roof sports car on the Miata platform with a novel and compact piston engine that would allow for a very low hood and cowl with centralized mass and better (more rearward) than 50/50 weight distribution. Something like a 2.5 V4 spinning to >8000rpm making 270ish hp NA should be nearly as compact as the rotary, while giving much better fuel economy. That's what *I'd* do if I were Mazda...

At first I thought it was impossible, then I found out about Honda's VFR1200... a 1.2L V4 that claims 172 at the crank:

http://driving.ca/honda/vfr1200/revi...onda-vfr1200-2

I have a hunch the specific output will drop once tuned to meet emissions but they should be able to hit your benchmark rather easily if they don't constrain the displacement and are willing to demand the owner take care of the car.

But they haven't done a full up sporting chassis in well over a decade.

Honda/Mazda collaboration to produce a VX-4 would be ridiculous and great regardless of outcome.

Teseo · 11-14-2014, 05:06 PM

Why they cant produce a sport car and put a damn skyactive engine on it?
I tought mazda will continue the legacy, they gave hope when
the mazda furai was a concept

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