BRZ vs Mustang - Here is the review the haters have been waiting for.

[brewksy]

Originally Posted by justaquestion

V6 Mustang is faster than an STI on a track... Makes me lawl

Um... Troll much? The STI isn't even in this review, and neither is VIR, but you managed to bring them both in - that's just trying too hard.

As for the Lightning Lap - like most drivers recommend, test drive both cars and make your own decision before trusting auto-journalist lap times to make your decision for you. Someday you too can move from forum-hero to responsible driver.

[blu_]

Originally Posted by justaquestion

V6 Mustang is faster than an STI on a track... Makes me lawl

I very much doubt that it actually is. If its not the same driver and same conditions it means nothing.

[Steve]

Point is that the review should really be comparing POWER/WEIGHT ratios of these cars.

Power ratio between the cars is ~3:2 mustang, but P/W ratio is ~6:5 mustang.

Then again showing the mustang only beats the BRZ by a second on the track looks more impressive when just comparing power numbers.

Question: What performance parts came with the mustangs 30,830 as tested price other than what seems like much better than stock tires? Was it some sort of track pack?

[xelmiradorx]

is it me or i read "turbo charged" for the brz limited???

[Spaceywilly]

Originally Posted by Steve

Point is that the review should really be comparing POWER/WEIGHT ratios of these cars.

Power ratio between the cars is ~3:2 mustang, but P/W ratio is ~6:5 mustang.

Then again showing the mustang only beats the BRZ by a second on the track looks more impressive when just comparing power numbers.

Question: What performance parts came with the mustangs 30,830 as tested price other than what seems like much better than stock tires? Was it some sort of track pack?

They mentioned it had the $1995 track package

-strut tower brace
-larger front sway bar and SVT rear sway bar
-unique front springs
-unique front and rear calipers with performance friction pads
-19-inch painted al wheels
-255/40R19 summer tires (Pirelli P-Zero)
-Unique traction control programming
-Gloss black side mirrors
-3.31 rear axle
-Unique engine cover (MT only)

The color is also a $495 option. Other than that I'm guessing it was interior options that got it over $30k. Usually the press cars are loaded up with nice features. Looks like it is the "mustang club of america" package which adds a bunch of appearence options but no performance upgrades. The MSRP of the mustang club package with perfomance package and gotta have it green comes to $30,675.

[subatoy]

This car is a freaking legend already and it hasn't even hit the streets yet.

[carbonBLUE]

Originally Posted by Spaceywilly

They mentioned it had the $1995 track package

-strut tower brace
-larger front sway bar and SVT rear sway bar
-unique front springs
-unique front and rear calipers with performance friction pads
-19-inch painted al wheels
-255/40R19 summer tires (Pirelli P-Zero)
-Unique traction control programming
-Gloss black side mirrors
-3.31 rear axle
-Unique engine cover (MT only)

The color is also a $495 option. Other than that I'm guessing it was interior options that got it over $30k. Usually the press cars are loaded up with nice features.

-255/40R19 summer tires (Pirelli P-Zero)
$1400 for 4 tires before installation... ahahaha i bet they couldnt find a better tire....

http://www.discounttiredirect.com/di...ign=FroogleCSE

[Tyrant]

The mustang won the battle bUt the brz won the war I'm stoked for the day I get my hands on one

[alyon]

Originally Posted by Spaceywilly

They mentioned it had the $1995 track package

-strut tower brace
-larger front sway bar and SVT rear sway bar
-unique front springs
-unique front and rear calipers with performance friction pads
-19-inch painted al wheels
-255/40R19 summer tires (Pirelli P-Zero)
-Unique traction control programming
-Gloss black side mirrors
-3.31 rear axle
-Unique engine cover (MT only)

The color is also a $495 option. Other than that I'm guessing it was interior options that got it over $30k. Usually the press cars are loaded up with nice features. Looks like it is the "mustang club of america" package which adds a bunch of appearence options but no performance upgrades. The MSRP of the mustang club package with perfomance package and gotta have it green comes to $30,675.

It is one hell of a package for 2k. But if its anything like 2011 and 2012 very few will be made with it. Under 2% during those 2 years.

[dookie11]

And there you have it, Randy Pobst says the "engine's happy at high revs, but wouldn't say it's like a Honda VTEC" hahaha.

[alyon]

Originally Posted by carbonBLUE

-255/40R19 summer tires (Pirelli P-Zero)
$1400 for 4 tires before installation... ahahaha i bet they couldnt find a better tire....

http://www.discounttiredirect.com/di...ign=FroogleCSE

Not to mention they will only last for the first year if you put about 10k on em.

[Capt Canuck]

Originally Posted by dookie11

And there you have it, Randy Pobst says the "engine's happy at high revs, but wouldn't say it's like a Honda VTEC" hahaha.

Embarrassingly he kept saying "Acura's VTEC"

[carbonBLUE]

Originally Posted by alyon

Not to mention they will only last for the first year if you put about 10k on em.

best rated max preformance summer tire for the brz/frs

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....omCompare1=yes



167 each thats almost 200 bucks less... my tires would have to go out in 5000 miles to get better value per set... lol

quote from tire rack

Initial Review, 1,008 Miles on Tires
April 29, 2012
I'm in love with these tires. At the skidpad, I was able to hit 1.28 G's, and it might have been higher, as the Corvette G meter maxes out at 1.28 G's. Awesome tire that I will definitely purchase again. I rated the "WET" portion of this review as 5, as I haven't had the opportunity to drive with these tires in wet conditions and normally don't drive the Corvette in the rain.

[NESW20]

that was a very fun video to watch. the thing that really impresses me about the BRZ compared to the mustang was how much easier it looked to drive. i'd hazard a guess that if you took 10 decent (but not great) drivers, 6 or 7 of them would get quicker lap times in the BRZ than the mustang, especially if you were to even out the discrepancy in rubber...