BRZ vs Mustang - Here is the review the haters have been waiting for. - Page 6 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

muffinman · 05-03-2012, 11:03 AM

slightly biased here, but wait til car&driver runs it in their lighting lap at VIR.

Dizz1e · 05-03-2012, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by justaquestion

No video but:

I hear turn 25 is a bitch!

Eureka · 05-03-2012, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Lighting Red

Which is a larger circuit? I am willing to bet that the BRZ has the advantage on larger tracks that favor grip.

I believe willow springs is the larger track, but again I am not entirely sure.

Eureka · 05-03-2012, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by bestwheelbase

Perhaps the more important takeaway from Randy's feedback is how he described the driving experience. The lap in the FRS was more lively. Do the FRS and BRZ come equipped with the same tires?

Pretty sure both comes with Michelin primacy's. Indeed the lap in the frs was more "lively", but that could also due to the set up of the car being too aggressive, thus causing unnecessary oversteer. Also note the driver's comment about the BRZ as being easy to turn and drive, and could literally be driven foot down 100% of the time. This just shows us that although 99% the same, the FRS and BRZ indeed handle differently.

5hairpins · 05-03-2012, 11:46 AM

I am not a neon color guy so that green mustang is not for this guy. Now a nice forest/olive green would work for me.

7thgear · 05-03-2012, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Hanzo

Interesting lap time between the FRS and BRZ on the same track, same driver but different days.

BRZ: 1:30.32
FRS: 1:31.15

a 1 second discrepancy between days is quite normal

Ikaros · 05-03-2012, 12:11 PM

lol, I didn't know the original mustang was a "secretary's car", I guess that's the reason why the high performance version is called the "Boss"

carbonBLUE · 05-03-2012, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

I subscribe to the more is better philosophy. Must have V12...

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxMfSc2vOtM"]Lotus Esprit - BMW V12 - Test run - - YouTube[/ame]

2600 lb car with a v12

enjoy!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ikaros

lol, I didn't know the original mustang was a "secretary's car", I guess that's the reason why the high performance version is called the "Boss"

ahahahhahahahah

Subaruwrxfan · 05-03-2012, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkSunrise

Damn dude, read what the guy wrote.
How will going with a V8 instead of a V6 make the Mustang feel any smaller, lighter, or more agile? The problem is the chassis, not the engine.

I think a lot of it had to do with the body roll. If I put some stiffer springs and bigger sway bars on it, it might be something I could deal with, but the older ones I drove literally felt like I was driving an SUV. I think I'll just get a 68 mustang in a couple years. It's funny, I was doing some research on the 68, guess what it's weight is? 2,750

OrbitalEllipses · 05-03-2012, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SUB-FT86

I realize everybody see's only the 105 hp difference but fails to see the 750 lb difference also. 1.5 seconds is good considering the P2W ratio but I would never get a Stang.

Curb weight on a MT equipped V6 Mustang is ~3350. BRZ weighs ~2750. That's 600lbs difference, not 750...

Spaceywilly · 05-03-2012, 01:18 PM

The video lists 3511lbs and 2747lbs. 764lb difference. lb/hp is 13.7 for the BRZ and 11.5 for the Mustang, so 1.5 seconds/lap makes perfect sense.

OrbitalEllipses · 05-03-2012, 01:20 PM

They also incorrectly state the BRZ is turbocharged...

/shrug

DarkSunrise · 05-03-2012, 01:27 PM

Curb weight on a 2013 Mustang V6 w/MT is 3501 lbs. Ford's website:

http://www.ford.com/cars/mustang/compare/

So ~740 lbs weight difference is correct.

Giccin · 05-03-2012, 01:28 PM

American Cars were never super sharp on corners.

But they are made to eat the crap out of anyone who plays at quarter miles. Until a GTR came by. Lol

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muffinman Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: - Location: jerz Posts: 120 Thanks: 55 Thanked 25 Times in 15 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	slightly biased here, but wait til car&driver runs it in their lighting lap at VIR.

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