Ebola Virus...

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by gramicci101

Shouldn't he at least buy me dinner first or something?

You hush. We're busy preparing for the undead horde.

Not you join him there ME!

[gramicci101]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Not you join him there ME!

Hey, whatever you two do on your own time is up to you; I don't need to hear about it.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by stugray

So you are saying that the nurses who BOTH caught Ebola from the patient in Texas were kissing him?
They both caught it THROUGH THE SKIN likely from AIRBORNE particles.

The CDC is now stating that you can catch Ebola by being within 3 feet of someone that is contagious.
If that is not "Airborne" I dont know what is.

Well that is a new way to get it!
Most likely they simply did not follow protocols (I know the SWEAR they did) and got it in a much more conventional manner (cut, mouth, eyes, etc).
I remember seeing pictures of all kinds of "professionals" during the SARS scare that had masks on upside down, with a strap cut off, with holes poked in them (for their smokes?) and one that was even on sideways! If this type of PPE is used incorrectly it just becomes a funnel and INCREASES your exposure.
Don't know where you got the quote where the CDC says about the 3 foot aspect.
This is from their documents:
"Ebola is not spread through the air or by water, or in general, by food. However, in Africa, Ebola may be spread as a result of handling bushmeat (wild animals hunted for food) and contact with infected bats. There is no evidence that mosquitos or other insects can transmit Ebola virus. Only mammals (for example, humans, bats, monkeys, and apes) have shown the ability to become infected with and spread Ebola virus."

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by gramicci101

Hey, whatever you two do on your own time is up to you; I don't need to hear about it.

You started it by trying to ship me off to France or China! I was just offering an alternative.
I have been to both and don't care to ever go back.
Did you know France is full of French people?????

[53Driver]

Originally Posted by MokSpeed

Somebody who has already been immortalized in the FT86Club Hall of Fame.

I've seen the name thrown around a bunch but there was a good year or so I wasn't very active on here so I must have missed it all.

[murdoc]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Well that is a new way to get it!
Most likely they simply did not follow protocols (I know the SWEAR they did) and got it in a much more conventional manner (cut, mouth, eyes, etc).
I remember seeing pictures of all kinds of "professionals" during the SARS scare that had masks on upside down, with a strap cut off, with holes poked in them (for their smokes?) and one that was even on sideways! If this type of PPE is used incorrectly it just becomes a funnel and INCREASES your exposure.
Don't know where you got the quote where the CDC says about the 3 foot aspect.
This is from their documents:
"Ebola is not spread through the air or by water, or in general, by food. However, in Africa, Ebola may be spread as a result of handling bushmeat (wild animals hunted for food) and contact with infected bats. There is no evidence that mosquitos or other insects can transmit Ebola virus. Only mammals (for example, humans, bats, monkeys, and apes) have shown the ability to become infected with and spread Ebola virus."

The three feet number comes from the CDC stating that being within 3 feet of a patient for a prolonged period of time without proper protective gear constitutes close contact. They have also warned that anyone not directly involved in patient care and properly protected should stay at least 3 feet away.

[tahdizzle]

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@53Driver

[HunterGreene]

Originally Posted by stugray

Ummm. The entire human population of the Earth is ~3 billion.
The chance of any one Human mutating and growing wings is pretty low.

One human can carry more than 3 TRILLION of the Ebola virus.
Multiply that by all of the Humans infected, and I think math is on my side when I say that the chance of Ebola mutating to become airbone is about a million times more likely that you growing wings.

Warning anyone reading this--there is about to be alot of information here. I apologize, but this is necessary to put this false information to rest.

Ignoring that you must have mistyped between the 3 and 7, your lack of understanding of evolution and mutation is very evident here. To delve into the science a bit more, the ebola virus infects the cells that line your blood vessels via receptors that are unique to those types of cells. Hence why, in the advanced stages, you bleed profusely as the blood vessel walls disintegrate as the new ebola quite literally explodes out of the host cell. (which causes hemorrhage).

The receptors for aviolar (lung lining) cells are different, enough so that ebola cannot easily infect them through the virus itself just being inhaled. Mucus and bodily fluids are still required for transport. Pure ebola virus will not survive very long in air. Suffice it to say, ebola would have to mutate in such a way to fundamentally change the way it infects cells.

Mutation is driven by two things--random mutation and environmental pressure. Environmental pressure, aka darwinism/evolution, even with a large population, takes time to result in a fundamental change. The chances of ebola making that sudden leap through evolution are, for all intents and purposes, impossible.

In the case of random mutation, of course anything is possible. "But the flu mutates and changes every year!" some would say. Yes, it does, through random mutation, but that mutation does not fundamentally change how the virus infects cells. So the chances of that happening are as likely as my stomach changing from producing hydrochloric acid to sulfuric acid.

As it stands now, the virus will not become airborne. There isn't environmental reason to, and random mutation is just as unlikely.

Originally Posted by stugray

So you are saying that the nurses who BOTH caught Ebola from the patient in Texas were kissing him?
They both caught it THROUGH THE SKIN likely from AIRBORNE particles.

The CDC is now stating that you can catch Ebola by being within 3 feet of someone that is contagious.
If that is not "Airborne" I dont know what is.

No, the nurses who caught ebola were exposed to him (if this is the correct story) before they had proper isolation and personal protective equipment. They were in close, personal contact with him in order to treat him.

As far as the "3 feet" rule, most spray from sneezes and coughs, on average, travels no more than 3 feet.

And no, you don't know what "Airborne" is, plainly. Now please do us all a favor and go hunker down and wait for this to blow over. Your misinformation does nothing but cause fear.

*micdrop*

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by wbradley

Dude, the average life expectancy in this country is 79 for males, I think. Average takes into account many variables that most likely skew things lower than one can expect if they dont smoke, drink heavily, participate in dangerous activities, etc. My father is 86 years old and had a quad bypass when he was 60. Granted he is type 2 diabetic as is my 74 yr old mother, likely due to their weight. Neither of them ever worked out in their lives though my dad was very active in various sports when younger. I was running 5+ miles almost daily until my back started hurting from impact. Bought a commercial elliptical from a gym which I use on and off now.

So I might be 50, but physically I am probably somewhere in my 30's compared to a previous generation or two. I hope you aren't in need of a nursing home when you are 50.

I seriously need to get my ass back in shape. I'm 6'5" with a clydesdale frame. I destroyed my knees 20 years ago and have yet to find some other form of aerobic activity I enjoy. Biking is great but doesn't do much for the core.

[tahdizzle]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

I seriously need to get my ass back in shape. I'm 6'5" with a clydesdale frame. I destroyed my knees 20 years ago and have yet to find some other form of aerobic activity I enjoy. Biking is great but doesn't do much for the core.

Beast with 2 backs, 3x a day would do it.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by tahdizzle

Beast with 2 backs, 3x a day would do it.

Been threatening to start riding to work. At 8 miles I really have no excuse. Used to do 150 a week. Still have the same bike!

[tahdizzle]

do eet!

[airjonny]

Wait for the first rich person to get Ebola and watch how fast a vaccine comes out for it.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Maple syrup please!
Actually I can't stand the stuff, nor hockey, never seen a moose or a Mountie in my life, don't say eh or aboot and am VERY glad or main exports have been Celine Dion and Justin Bieber!


Oh and Ultra is just a jerk! Ask him he will tell you!

<sigh> it's true.

Originally Posted by gramicci101

... You're fired. Turn in your Canadian citizenship and move to France or China or some other communist country.

LOL!!! Win!