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Old 10-08-2014, 02:12 AM   #29
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You're totally missing the point, there's no way in hell that my car is objectively faster than either of those cars that cost 2x-4x as much with much more performance oriented build. I was totally stock, I was also passed by an NA Miata that day which would have been a better mention than the Cayman.





Spend the money, enjoy it for a few months then a year or two down the road complain about how you lost a drag race to a minivan, turbo it and beat on it until it blows up or you realize you're still lapping slower than an STI, used Cayman, or Mustang GT for equal money and sell it and buy one of those. At least that seems to be the path ~10% of owners take.


Well, I imagined that on a track with a lot of twisties than straights... you managed to pass the 911 but ok.
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I am not trying to make this car into anything. I don't have the knowledge, time or money to do such a thing properly. I haven't owned any of the cars you have listed. Savage Geese did a great review of this car. That is the kind of information I am looking for or rather looking to reaffirm. Owners of the car can tell me if this car delivered on its promise.... what their journey has been like with or without mods.
I'm not saying to own all those cars I've listed. I said test drive em. It's not our car you gonna be paying & driving. It's your car you gonna be paying & driving. If you buy it, great & enjoy the ride. If you don't, o'well. We won't get offended (some might, who knows lol).

Take our comment as only a grain of salt and nothing more. Just test drive whatever you think you wanna buy and go from there. Not worth asking "should I buy this car?" Specially this car. Reading all the spec, mods & actually driving is two different things. Some people get it, some people don't. Is it bad that they don't? Nope, it wasn't their cup of tea, that's all.
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Old 10-08-2014, 02:21 AM   #31
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Let me tell you, this car hasn't disappointed in the fun factor! I'm at 60000 km and still love it. I've driven it on long road trips > 5k each, and it had no issues and was lots of fun and plenty of room for stuff. Also, as an extra incentive it gets great gas mileage for road trips.

And it's the best bang for the buck for a brand new sports car.
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Old 10-08-2014, 12:56 PM   #32
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I ask because I haven't had the opportunity to drive many another cars let alone go on a spirited drive with one of them. My current car is a 4cyl auto Camry from 2001... So the twins would be a huge upgrade for me.



I ask because I am finally actually planning to buy one... and I just want be sure that this would be the right buy for me and my hard earned money. I am primarily looking at new cars because among warranty and peace of mind... This would be the first car I ever bought and I want it to be something good. I love the idea of this car. I love the way it looks. I just want to be sure its all there.





I mean at this price range the only other cars to consider would be 370z, genesis, mustang. I have done the next bed thing to driving them and that is I have watched/read several reviews. Neither of those look as great. Not all of them supposed handle 10/10ths of the way.





Yea, I wish I could drive all these different cars all day to help decide.
I'm assuming from this that you are fairly young, so keep in mind that this undoubtedly won't be the last car you own. Every car is going to have a least a few things you don't like, and IMHO it's not a decision that you can ever be 100 percent sure about. Having said that, I was driving a very similar car to your Camry in age and type, and driving my new BRZ feels like I upgraded to a Ferrari in comparison. You will love it!
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My regret is not waiting and buying a high mileage used one for a lot less to build off of then a brand new one, because all mine sees is auto x, lapping and car shows.
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Old 10-08-2014, 01:35 PM   #34
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I just got my BRZ Limited and test drove the FRS and Genisis coupe before buying although the genisis coupe drove faster I didn't like the shifting nor handeling as well. It did ride better and was roomier and more comfortable. I went for the BRZ limited over the FRS simply for personal choice. For handling and economy (averaging 28.5 mostly city under 2K on odometer) it puts a grin on my face every time i get in it!
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Old 10-08-2014, 01:43 PM   #35
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Well most people on the forum own one... I think that answers the question really.
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Old 10-08-2014, 03:31 PM   #36
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I'm fresh out of college with no student loans, got a entry level position in my field of study and bought a 2015 WRB BRZ Premium. Why premium? Because I couldn't justify the extras that would realistically be +$3k out the door (Tax, title, etc included). I wanted my monthly payments to be managable (preapproved at my CU with lowest APR) with my current lifestyle that includes frivilous spending on Electronic Dance Music festivals and my girlfriend.

This is my 3rd car, i had a 1995 Toyota 4Runner in highschool and a 1997 Acura CL 2.2 in college. My CL literally died on me the day I decided to pull the trigger and talk hard numbers at the dealership.

I had the opportunity to buy a lightly modified AP1 s2000, but being my BRZ to be brand new and unmolested, versus new-to-me.

I have fun every time I get in the car and find myself constantly grinning taking corners. Do i wish I had a little instant pep when I put the pedal down like the VTEC i was used to? Sure. Maybe I'll go FI when my warranty is up. *ninja edit* Friends would tell me to go WRX or STI, because turbo AWD, but I've never had a car with power. So any power whatsoever is power to me. My infatuation with this car started 2 years ago, and that was based on looks alone at first.

Everyone tried to push me to go Series.Blue or limited, but in the end I went base BRZ because
1) didn't want to pay extra for things i'd remove/replace (sparing AC/Push to start), 2) not a scion because I'm a brand whore like that
3) I get a very bare canvas to really make unique (or look like 100s of other peoples' cars on here... lol).

In the end, it's your money. This car was well worth mine.
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Old 10-08-2014, 03:50 PM   #37
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Dumbest research ever.
"the only other cars to consider would be 370z, genesis, mustang."

Why not just go test drive them all and pick for yourself?
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Give it a shittier interior, add $10,000 to the price but put a Lotus badge on it and it would still be viewed as a good value...
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Dumbest research ever.
"the only other cars to consider would be 370z, genesis, mustang."

Why not just go test drive them all and pick for yourself?
This is my advice as well. A test drive is free - take advantage of the opportunity. Don't just drive it around the block either, and bring with you whoever you would be spending time with while driving.

I've got a 13 BRZ and my wife has a 13 GC. Both nice cars, but the BRZ fits like a glove and continues to fit like a glove through the turns. The GC has a nicer interior as far as amenities are concerned, but it drives like a pig through the turns and it just doesn't "fit" well. Power is comparable as my BRZ is boosted. Without that, the GC walks away easily in the straights.

Can't speak to the Mustang, I haven't driven one since the 67. I've heard nice things about the current V6 though.

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Old 10-08-2014, 05:28 PM   #40
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Dumbest research ever.
"the only other cars to consider would be 370z, genesis, mustang."

Why not just go test drive them all and pick for yourself?



Lol really? "dumbest research ever"?



There is only so much a test drive reveals and the last thing you want to go by is what the sales guy say.



RESEARCH comes from pushing the car and talking to people have owned/used the cars. It's when the cars gets put to an actual test... not all of which can be done on a test drive. For example... is there really a gain in performance with grippy tires? Can the engine actually be boosted? Is the build quality of the car actually good? The kind of analysis Savage Geese did in his films.



I have driven an frs before... It's nice at w.e I could do with the sales guy in the car with me....
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Old 10-08-2014, 05:36 PM   #41
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Follow ichitaka's post. Others opinions aren't what should make your car choice.

I'd also say that since your posting on the brz side... While everyone has their opinion on brz vs frs I will say as an owner of my breezy for 2 years, I would have no problem picking up the base frs and saving the $4-6k difference I had spent. I'm happy with my BRZ and pig-headedly didn't consider the FR-S because 'scion brah.' The differences don't bother me now as much as they did especialy after you change everything modding anyways given the vast amount of aftermarket parts anyways.

I picked up my FRS mainly because of the Front bumper.. i hated the BRZ.. now id love to find someone to trade.. im still Jelly on the GTR wing.. cant wait to get mine on..

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I'm fresh out of college with no student loans, got a entry level position in my field of study and bought a 2015 WRB BRZ Premium. Why premium? Because I couldn't justify the extras that would realistically be +$3k out the door (Tax, title, etc included). I wanted my monthly payments to be managable (preapproved at my CU with lowest APR) with my current lifestyle that includes frivilous spending on Electronic Dance Music festivals and my girlfriend.

This is my 3rd car, i had a 1995 Toyota 4Runner in highschool and a 1997 Acura CL 2.2 in college. My CL literally died on me the day I decided to pull the trigger and talk hard numbers at the dealership.

I had the opportunity to buy a lightly modified AP1 s2000, but being my BRZ to be brand new and unmolested, versus new-to-me.

I have fun every time I get in the car and find myself constantly grinning taking corners. Do i wish I had a little instant pep when I put the pedal down like the VTEC i was used to? Sure. Maybe I'll go FI when my warranty is up. *ninja edit* Friends would tell me to go WRX or STI, because turbo AWD, but I've never had a car with power. So any power whatsoever is power to me. My infatuation with this car started 2 years ago, and that was based on looks alone at first.

Everyone tried to push me to go Series.Blue or limited, but in the end I went base BRZ because
1) didn't want to pay extra for things i'd remove/replace (sparing AC/Push to start), 2) not a scion because I'm a brand whore like that
3) I get a very bare canvas to really make unique (or look like 100s of other peoples' cars on here... lol).

In the end, it's your money. This car was well worth mine.





I am thinking serieblue because there is not too big a difference in price if u can find a good deal and u get leather seats and aero kit. Also keyless entry is cool lol and heated mirrors help during the rain. I don't plan on modifying this car aesthetically much. Somewhere down the road... I might want to give it a light driveshaft pulley etc



My first ever mod might just be grippy summer tires....
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