Looking to become a Scion FR-S owner next month...

[spicyricecake]

Hello! I have been in the market for a Scion FR-S recently and I am quite excited about it.


Initially the battle was between the 2014 Hyundai Genesis Coupe 2.0t base vs. 2014 Scion FR-S (automatic)

I drove the Fr-S and fell in love with the drive... Can't imagine how great manual would feel if I actually knew how to drive stick haha.


The problem is that I have to stay on a 25k budget excluding taxes and dealer fees (I would imagine getting one for 25k with tax and dealer fees would be impossible), but my local dealer has one up for 28800. This includes their exclusive warranty offer that I really don't care about, and they valued my trade in at $0.

My current car is a hand me down 1998 Buick LeSabre with a few problems: the roof cloth of the car is falling off, and the driver side door has a problem where it doesn't open all the way due to a small collision to a gas station pole.

In comparison to the local dealer, I managed to find the exact car I want in a dealership at Alabama using Autotrader.com, but it's a hell of a better deal.

2015 Scion Fr-S with rear spoiler, 650 miles on it and only 25,150!

Why is there such a big price discrepancy?

and lastly, if I can't meet this budget, I'll be getting a genesis 2.0t instead. Is there anyone who can give me an unbiased opinion on this car in comparison to the FR-S?


Here are the links to both cars:

Tallahassee dealer: http://www.legacytoy.com/auto/new-20...n-frs/1939018/

Alabama Dealer: http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...79565679&Log=0





EDIT: Looks like the one from Alabama dealership is gone... could not find it on their website.

[Shady195]

The discrepancy came from the 650 miles. While not much its enough to make it a used car.

You should be able to find a used 2013/2014 or even a new leftover 2013 or 2014 for your 25k mark if not under.

Also, as far as the genesis vs FR-S

Having driven both, the Genesis has a more upscale feel to the interior, and its definately quicker however it feels a bit sloppy/overweight compared to the FRS IMO. It's a numb car to drive.

[spicyricecake]

Thanks for the reply. What do you mean a new left over? Like the new 2014s that didn't sell?

[Tcoat]

The Genesis was on the top of my next car list until I stumbled across the FRS. They are two rather different breeds really.
This guy sums up my thoughts as if I had written it myself!
http://www.autoguide.com/car-compari...spec-2103.html

[Shady195]

Originally Posted by spicyricecake

Thanks for the reply. What do you mean a new left over? Like the new 2014s that didn't sell?

In some areas where the car did not sell as well there are still brand new 2013's on the lot, as well as 2014's "Leftovers" that are still unsold after the new model year comes out.

[D_Thissen]

Why did they value your trade in at Zero?!
If you can find a 2013/2014 on the lot some where you should be able to save a good chunk of change!

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Shady195

In some areas where the car did not sell as well there are still brand new 2013's on the lot, as well as 2014's "Leftovers" that are still unsold after the new model year comes out.

Come up here I am pretty sure the dealer is giving one away free with every Lexus purchase!
Their own fault as they have done next to nothing to promote them and the only people that have a clue they exist are "car folks".
When I finally got a salesperson to talk to me about mine (normally you look at a car in the showroom for 1/2 an hour you can't get rid of them) their first response was "You really are interested?".

[kchar]

Another option would be taking the dive for the manual. You'll be able to learn on your own with some thorough research and you'll save some money. Win/win!

[spicyricecake]

The trade in value was at 0 at the toyota dealership because they felt that the car had no value... it is by no means a good car at all, but it is still drivable and I think I could at least get a grand for it... Hyundai offered 900 for the trade in comparison btw.


Secondly, as my parents are helping me pay for this car, they would prefer for me to have an automatic transmission to avoid any potential problems on such a high priced car for my age.

[spicyricecake]

also, where would be the best place to find 2014s that are still on the lot, and about when will their prices start to drop?

[kchar]

Originally Posted by spicyricecake

The trade in value was at 0 at the toyota dealership because they felt that the car had no value... it is by no means a good car at all, but it is still drivable and I think I could at least get a grand for it... Hyundai offered 900 for the trade in comparison btw.


Secondly, as my parents are helping me pay for this car, they would prefer for me to have an automatic transmission to avoid any potential problems on such a high priced car for my age.

Keyword prefer :P
Just playing around but I had to try!

As far as I know the discounted prices vary by dealerships. Like a dealership with a lot of stock may offer a promotional 1k. Just check their websites or give em a call.

[spicyricecake]

Ok thanks a lot.

So does anyone see that the Tallahassee dealership is full of **** on their prices? or is that just me?

[projekkt]

Originally Posted by spicyricecake

The trade in value was at 0 at the toyota dealership because they felt that the car had no value... it is by no means a good car at all, but it is still drivable and I think I could at least get a grand for it... Hyundai offered 900 for the trade in comparison btw.


Secondly, as my parents are helping me pay for this car, they would prefer for me to have an automatic transmission to avoid any potential problems on such a high priced car for my age.

If buying manual equates to "avoiding" any potential problems on a "high" priced car, my impression is that this purchase is gonna put financial strain on you. [Especially when its considered an affordable car] As such, I'm gonna play devils advocate and say you should probably look more milder car. reasons below:

-more maintenance versus a toyota/honda
-insurance premiums
-limited cargo flexibility vs a sedan or cuv
-the RWD risk
-snow tires in the winter
-potential ticket magnet
-if you want more iI'm sure the members here can think of more reasons

As someone who does personal finance for friends, I was wanted to put it out there that you should really consider the impact of getting this car especially if its financially straining. Also consider how important traveling the world is to you as well. But if you've considered all of the above and still are set on buying this car, good luck shopping!

[DarkSunrise]

Can't you get a new BRZ premium for that price with some negotiation? Might be something to consider.